Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
09-12-2014, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DLpilot
Early Retirement LOA passed
09-12-2014, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
What Jam were they in? Training 25 displaced pilots? Now they avoid that but have to train 25 replacements for the non 747 guys. There was no jam, even with the 4 aircraft going next year it's a non issue. They had to train for the increased A330 flying anyway. This forum can sure manufacture a crises out of nothing.
09-12-2014, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
Because, it rarely happens, I'd like to take this opportunity to agree with sailing.
It seems to me that getting people to leave early should be the goal for everyone.
It seems to me that getting people to leave early should be the goal for everyone.
09-12-2014, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone
I rank them by where I would want to go 
Dont get your panties in a bunch.
We can turn "blue" in the face and argue but Alaska is not on the same tier as Delta. Plain and simple.
Knowing this and putting emotions aside, I think Alaska is a good company.
TEN
Dont get your panties in a bunch. We can turn "blue" in the face and argue but Alaska is not on the same tier as Delta. Plain and simple.
Knowing this and putting emotions aside, I think Alaska is a good company.
TEN
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09-12-2014, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
What Jam were they in? Training 25 displaced pilots? Now they avoid that but have to train 25 replacements for the non 747 guys. There was no jam, even with the 4 aircraft going next year it's a non issue. They had to train for the increased A330 flying anyway. This forum can sure manufacture a crises out of nothing.
09-12-2014, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Actually, it's not. If either of you tow would bother to ask your reps, you could see the language. Mine offered it to me in the lounge, but I am sure neither of you even bothered with something that is a little more difficult than simply whining about it
The 747 guys that would otherwise be displaced get to hold onto an airplane with artificially created seniority, and the non 747 guys will get a nice check upon their normal retirement date. Great deal for them, but means bupkus when the 757s are retired and I get bumped due to that. I say displace 'em, make 'em go to training, and the sooner the better because the remaining viable fence comes down in 4 months.
The 747 guys that would otherwise be displaced get to hold onto an airplane with artificially created seniority, and the non 747 guys will get a nice check upon their normal retirement date. Great deal for them, but means bupkus when the 757s are retired and I get bumped due to that. I say displace 'em, make 'em go to training, and the sooner the better because the remaining viable fence comes down in 4 months.
Well...at least we agree on something. I'd better go buy a lottery ticket.
09-12-2014, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by qball
Whining? Did you bother to read the email from my rep that I posted. He never intimated that I could see the actual language. So yeah...I did bother to talk to my rep via email. I didn't have the luxury of rubbing elbows in the "lounge"
Well...at least we agree on something. I'd better go buy a lottery ticket.
Well...at least we agree on something. I'd better go buy a lottery ticket.
Like doinmyjob said then, you need new reps. Mine offered to show it to me in the lounge. Getting the information you desire... if you REALLY desire it, sometimes is a little inconvenient. I was lucky in that I was off for the day and went over to the airport where they were holding court. If that wasn't possible for you, then I am sorry for that, but unfortunately it is what it is. Ask your reps if they would show it to you in person. If they do... problem solved. If not, you might remind them that they work for you and that you have a right to that language unless it is proprietary which I highly doubt this is. They might have a valid reason for not emailing it as for some reason they do not want to lose control of it, but looking at it in their hands should not be a problem.
I have no idea what your lottery ticket reference is about.
09-12-2014, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
That's just it. Nobody except the 747 guys that take the bait will leave early.
Twenty-five 747captains taking early retirement, instead of twenty-five pilots taking displacements to the A330, hurts me how?
In fact, how doesn't that help me?
09-12-2014, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Like doinmyjob said then, you need new reps. Mine offered to show it to me in the lounge. Getting the information you desire... if you REALLY desire it, sometimes is a little inconvenient. I was lucky in that I was off for the day and went over to the airport where they were holding court. If that wasn't possible for you, then I am sorry for that, but unfortunately it is what it is. Ask your reps if they would show it to you in person. If they do... problem solved. If not, you might remind them that they work for you and that you have a right to that language unless it is proprietary which I highly doubt this is. They might have a valid reason for not emailing it as for some reason they do not want to lose control of it, but looking at it in their hands should not be a problem.
I have no idea what your lottery ticket reference is about.
I have no idea what your lottery ticket reference is about.
Lottery ticket....we agreed on something. Maybe it's a unique day
09-12-2014, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Fly4hire
Underestimating staffing needs together with a marketing, move aircraft sine wave, and award and training sine wave that rarely seem to have any harmonics, I predict there will be awards to the 744 before the fleet retires
Ask yourself what a micro base is and how the company would like to handle staffing and reserves in such a base?
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