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forgot to bid 10-15-2014 05:53 AM

You're welcome. :D

Ebola drug developed by Auburn University researchers could stop outbreak - Birmingham Business Journal

Timbo 10-15-2014 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1746605)
Phase 1 human trials of a Canadian Ebola vaccine are beginning today.

The problem with new vaccines (and antibiotics) is that they are expensive to create and test with no certain payback for the investment. These sort of public goods mostly rely on government funding which tends to be insufficient when the threat is perceived to be low and inefficiently allocated when the threat is perceived to be high.

We sure cured erectile dysfunction. :rolleyes:


How do you know if your Lawyer is taking Viagra?

Every time you see him, he gets taller...:eek::D

forgot to bid 10-15-2014 05:54 AM


Originally Posted by SluggoC17 (Post 1746624)
If this stuff really kicks off here in the States, how negatively do you think it will impact the airline industry? Will we see it like the days immediately following 9/11 or worse? Will the hiring completely stop and the furloughs begin again?



Absolutely.

But how can you have executive amnesty while closing the borders with West Africa? Can't do both so don't do the latter.

And when a breakout happens in Latin America....

satchip 10-15-2014 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1746584)
I would venture that it is a very safe bet that if an Ebola infected person gets on an international flight, the chance that everyone on that flight is infected is almost a given. Iow, 100%.

I don't think it's quite that bad but those immediately around the infected symptomatic person are at risk and all who come in contact with the areas of the plane that person has been. If someone in row 300 of the 777 (aren't those planes that big?) is sick, I doubt the 1st class Bourgeoise are at a significant risk. From everything I've read a person has to be symptomatic before the virus is transmissible. The real risk in you scenario is that one person infects 5-10 other people who travel to various parts of the US and create disease clusters in those communities. That is the CDC's greatest fear in a pandemic.

Timbo 10-15-2014 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1746584)
I would venture that it is a very safe bet that if an Ebola infected person gets on an international flight, the chance that everyone on that flight is infected is almost a given. Iow, 100%.

I came into F concourse a few mornings ago from Dubai. The Joburg flight was right behind us. As I went through customs and immigration I took a long look around but I didn't see ANYBODY with a thermometer laser gun (like in NRT) checking temperatures or anything else.

I did see the puppy sniffing bags though, I wonder if he can sniff out Ebola?

Are we still flying the Lagos trip?

WHY? :rolleyes:

forgot to bid 10-15-2014 06:15 AM

Ebola sniffing puppy wouldn't last too long.

TOGA LK 10-15-2014 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by satchip (Post 1746635)
I don't think it's quite that bad but those immediately around the infected symptomatic person are at risk and all who come in contact with the areas of the plane that person has been. If someone in row 300 of the 777 (aren't those planes that big?) is sick, I doubt the 1st class Bourgeoise are at a significant risk. From everything I've read a person has to be symptomatic before the virus is transmissible. The real risk in you scenario is that one person infects 5-10 other people who travel to various parts of the US and create disease clusters in those communities. That is the CDC's greatest fear in a pandemic.

IMO, they should have shut off travel to the affected areas almost immediately. Some say that doing so would increase the spread, I disagree. The state department can move "trained" personel and scientists around via military assets and therefore spend more time screening a smaller percentage of the population. Keeping unrestricted travel to and from these areas, after considering the incubation period, is foolish. It has more to do with protecting the stock market ahead of Novemember mid-term elections although that cat is already out of the bag and compounding. For the innocent observer, notice how fast ABC, MSN, CNN and CBS have changed their perception of the market. Local media is special interest based, owned by large corporations and cater to their owners' best interests. If you need the real scoop stick to the few outlets that are not heavidly biased left or right (Fox is ridiculous). Look into NPR, Al Jazeera and sometimes the Guardian. Snowden picked his outlets because he knew FOX and CNN would never bite the hand that feeds them. Getting back on target here...

Eric Duncan checked into a hospital September 25th, it is now three weeks later and another healthcare worker has finally shown symptoms and been appropriately diagnosed. Think she went out to eat, home, grocery store, pumped her own gas? Sneezed? You get the idea. And check multiple sources, ebola has been proven to spread via aerosol among non-human primates. The CDC will simply state is had not been known to transmit via airborne methods among humans. It is SHOCKING Timbo states that no one even had a thermometer in customs and at the same time not all those people would be symptomatic. You get the idea.

13 states are not reporting ebola cases at all.

scambo1 10-15-2014 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by satchip (Post 1746635)
I don't think it's quite that bad but those immediately around the infected symptomatic person are at risk and all who come in contact with the areas of the plane that person has been. If someone in row 300 of the 777 (aren't those planes that big?) is sick, I doubt the 1st class Bourgeoise are at a significant risk. From everything I've read a person has to be symptomatic before the virus is transmissible. The real risk in you scenario is that one person infects 5-10 other people who travel to various parts of the US and create disease clusters in those communities. That is the CDC's greatest fear in a pandemic.

Agree to disagree.

See below

scambo1 10-15-2014 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by satchip (Post 1746635)
I don't think it's quite that bad but those immediately around the infected symptomatic person are at risk and all who come in contact with the areas of the plane that person has been. If someone in row 300 of the 777 (aren't those planes that big?) is sick, I doubt the 1st class Bourgeoise are at a significant risk. From everything I've read a person has to be symptomatic before the virus is transmissible. The real risk in you scenario is that one person infects 5-10 other people who travel to various parts of the US and create disease clusters in those communities. That is the CDC's greatest fear in a pandemic.

Agree to disagree about the risk to everyone on the plane.

No question about the disease cluster scenario though (in a small picture way). The big picture is everything the sick person touches can infect every other person that touches it. Then all those people touch something else, etc.

GunshipGuy 10-15-2014 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by TOGA LK (Post 1746652)
Look into NPR, Al Jazeera and sometimes the Guardian.

Good points, but seriously, NPR? As a listener to this station I can tell you they know the hand that feeds them.


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