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Roadkill 10-28-2014 08:06 PM

Wow that transcript wasn't fun. It's not over til it's over, those last 6 seconds weren't good.

DelDah Capt 10-28-2014 08:20 PM

There's some good stuff in the Human Performance section of the report regarding the Captain's cockpit style and CRM as well as an interesting discussion of SWA's 'No Fly list' and the OAK Chief Pilot's unofficial file regarding the PIC.

According to the records, 15% of the Capts in OAK had at least one F/O bid avoiding them, which I suppose is probably normal for most airlines, but there will be some paranoid Captains in Oakland after this report wondering if somebody has them on their list.

buzzpat 10-28-2014 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by DelDah Capt (Post 1754921)
There's some good stuff in the Human Performance section of the report regarding the Captain's cockpit style and CRM as well as an interesting discussion of SWA's 'No Fly list' and the OAK Chief Pilot's unofficial file regarding the PIC.

According to the records, 15% of the Capts in OAK had at least one F/O bid avoiding them, which I suppose is probably normal for most airlines, but there will be some paranoid Captains in Oakland after this report wondering if somebody has them on their list.

I don't know but I think "no fly" should work both ways. I like a trip with a nice synergy from the get go. I've only had one or two uncomfortable trips in 14 years but I hear chatter from guys in both seats. Not a lot, but why should there be any? There are FOs every bit as difficult to manage as a CA with issues.

Since we're both signing releases, shouldn't that be an easy to accomplish issue for the next PWA? Why give FOs all the love.

buzzpat 10-28-2014 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by Roadkill (Post 1754916)
Wow that transcript wasn't fun. It's not over til it's over, those last 6 seconds weren't good.

Sounds like exactly what it was. Two pilots not on the same sheet.

Justdoinmyjob 10-28-2014 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1754868)
Lets outsource our rockets to Ukrainians building to soviet specs during a war with said soviets. Coordination should be optimal. What could go wrong with that plan?

It would be comical if not for the fact these things can be dangerous and cost a lot of money.

How about jobs for Americans? Just saying.

Not sure if you're aware, it was a US rocket, launched by a US company from a US launch site in Virginia. The Ukrainians probably would have had a safer launch. They get more practice at it.

georgetg 10-28-2014 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1754938)
Not sure if you're aware, it was a US rocket, launched by a US company from a US launch site in Virginia. The Ukrainians probably would have had a safer launch. They get more practice at it.

Lol, the engine that exploded was an AJ26 a russian made Soviet era NK33 with western electronics...

In addition, both the Delta and Atlas heavy lift rockets use Russian made motors.

Our only large lauch vehicle with US made motors is the Space-X Falcon with motors made right in Hawthorn, Los Angeles.

Cheers
George

maddogmax 10-29-2014 04:04 AM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1754925)
I don't know but I think "no fly" should work both ways. I like a trip with a nice synergy from the get go. I've only had one or two uncomfortable trips in 14 years but I hear chatter from guys in both seats. Not a lot, but why should there be any? There are FOs every bit as difficult to manage as a CA with issues.

Since we're both signing releases, shouldn't that be an easy to accomplish issue for the next PWA? Why give FOs all the love.

If this was possible, it would be interesting to see how many CA/FO's were on each other's list. The handful of CA/FO's that I flew with in my career,that I would put on my list, probably would have me on theirs.

Alan Shore 10-29-2014 04:24 AM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1754925)
I think "no fly" should work both ways.

While I agree with the desirability of that, I don't know how you'd manage it. When an FO puts a Captain on his no-fly list, he gives up on being awarded any rotations that have previously been awarded to the Captain. This makes having a no-fly list a voluntary act on your part, in that no one else is involuntarily affected.

Given that Captains awards are always run before FO awards, you'd have to deny the FO on your no-fly list any rotations that you've been awarded. That would negatively affect the FO.

Is that what we would want?

DogWhisperer 10-29-2014 04:41 AM


Originally Posted by maddogmax (Post 1754988)
If this was possible, it would be interesting to see how many CA/FO's were on each other's list. The handful of CA/FO's that I flew with in my career,that I would put on my list, probably would have me on theirs.

Man...I hope that never comes into being...I would never be able to get a line...think that there may be a grand total of four captains allow me to touch anything...and even then, it limited to the light switches.

NWA320pilot 10-29-2014 05:53 AM

Looks like a total of 18 Captains on the whale put in for the early out. That said past early out programs have had a history of 30% withdrawals.


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