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Sink r8 11-15-2014 03:53 AM

Unfortunately for them, it appears that American Pilots, like their Flight Attendants, agreed to an arbitration clause that caps maximum gains in a new contract BELOW what the company is offering. It appears the arbitrators in both cases will NOT be able to get the unions more, even if they want to. Setting yourself up for a TA you essentially can't vote down seems like an incredibly dumb move by labor. Not coming up with a contract that will let labor walk with their head held high, seems like a pretty stupid move by Parker. I think he got more than he bargained for with the F/A's. I doubt he wanted that TA to fail, because he's going to pay dearly for the difference between the TA, and the arbitrated contract, in terms of service levels.

American Pilots Union Said It Will Counter Management?s Contract Proposal Friday - WSJ - WSJ

This appears to mean that American pilots can't leapfrog us, and provide leverage for us. The only saving grace is that their proposal may have some sort of adjustment mechanism to bring them up to our rate if we leapfrog them.

Regardless, Delta is in a position to create a huge contrast between employment at Delta, where employees are fully vested in the day-to-day success of the company, and AMR, where their personal compensation doesn't vary accordingly.

The potential exists, if RA is willing to offer a strong contract, to ensure lasting labor peace with us, keep unions at bay for the F/A's, and permanently anger the bride at American, just as the honeymoon was coming to an abrupt end.

GogglesPisano 11-15-2014 03:58 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1764157)
YES!!

Just ask Glen Beck! :rolleyes:

God, I how I miss that blackboard. It taught me so much about history that I did not know.:rolleyes:

Piklepausepull 11-15-2014 04:25 AM


Originally Posted by profit (Post 1764154)
Just because Fox and Right wing talk radio says its true, does that actually make it true?


Usually, heck YES!

Most of what the Dems spew from their mealy pie-holes is LIES, so who are ya gonna believe?

A democrat sees what he believes....

A republican believes what he sees....

A democrat is just a republican who hasn't been mugged yet!

carry on.....;-0

orvil 11-15-2014 04:48 AM

HVAC Referral Needed
 
Newnan, Peachtree City area.

I need a referral for a good HVAC company in the Newnan area. I have a company that I have been using for many years. They are recommending a completely new system which will cost a lot of money. It's an old house with a lot of quirks. I need a second opinion.

Thanks.

Dirtdiver 11-15-2014 04:53 AM


Originally Posted by orvil (Post 1764279)
Newnan, Peachtree City area.

I need a referral for a good HVAC company in the Newnan area. I have a company that I have been using for many years. They are recommending a completely new system which will cost a lot of money. It's an old house with a lot of quirks. I need a second opinion.

Thanks.

Progressive. Not the cheapest, but they do good work.

CheapTrick 11-15-2014 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 1763956)
Yes. The question is: Why? Do we brief what we go-around for on every trip?

I just say "If its screwed up, we go around."
:D

forgot to bid 11-15-2014 05:07 AM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 1764262)
God, I how I miss that blackboard. It taught me so much about history that I did not know.:rolleyes:

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GunshipGuy 11-15-2014 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by FIIGMO (Post 1764200)
Gunship don't take it personal. Labeling me liberal is unfair. ( we have not even had a beer yet! ) My issue with fox is the ever hypocritical positions. They like government when it suits them and bad mouths it when it does not match their interests. The problem with MSNBC is they just want everything and the rest of us to pay for it. American news is trash, USA today is not even worthy of toilet paper (sans the sudoku :D).

I don't take it personally. But I will admit that this kind of stuff does truly annoy me. Now I didn't actually call you a liberal, but yes...I'm guilty of thinking it.:D But I have liberal friends I have beers with! As for your seeing hypocritical positions in FNC, I'm sure you could point out a few examples, but I think you could find that anywhere if you're looking. The easiest one to find is at 1600 Penn Ave; says one thing then does/says another. Most recent example--talking about election results and willingness to work with the other side. Then the next day?--my way or the highway, fellas! Bottom line, you know you're doing something right when you're on the top guy's enemies list and he keeps citing you as the problem. Back in Nixon's days it was all the press. Today, this guy just has one that's a PITA.

flyallnite 11-15-2014 05:45 AM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1764213)
No doubt. With 30 gates you can just imagine how many Heavy JV aircraft DAL could put our passengers on. :D

Scoop

Yup. RA also stated he wanted to build a large 'base' (not crew base) in Beijing and Seoul. So I'd expect many of those gates to have China Southern and KAL heavies parked there. Just like the AF/KLM hubs, we'll fly some flights in and out but all the connection traffic will be on their metal. That's the plan after they close NRT. We won't need any more heavies than we have now, just replacements for the 767's.

gzsg 11-15-2014 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1764305)
Yup. RA also stated he wanted to build a large 'base' (not crew base) in Beijing and Seoul. So I'd expect many of those gates to have China Southern and KAL heavies parked there. Just like the AF/KLM hubs, we'll fly some flights in and out but all the connection traffic will be on their metal. That's the plan after they close NRT. We won't need any more heavies than we have now, just replacements for the 767's.

Hearing we are on the verge of more JVs. China Southern or KAL? Hopefully we can protect and strengthen our flying and scope languange.


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