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CheapTrick 11-14-2014 11:22 AM

I did a high speed abort a couple of years ago. Beautiful day. Long runway. >120 kts, brakes >700 degrees. Did a complete abort brief since it was the first leg and amazingly we aborted just exactly as briefed. The NTSB took over the investigation because tower had crossed an aircraft in front of us. We hit all the required briefing gates and survived the rectal exam without bruising. I was glad I briefed.

Free Bird 11-14-2014 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1763931)
It takes a lot of licking of those suction cups to get the efb holder to stay on. There has to be a better way.

Try sneezing into them, that might work.

Sink r8 11-14-2014 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by Free Bird (Post 1763936)
Try sneezing into them, that might work.

The alternate method is to lick the windows. If you're saliva isn't quite strong enough, ask your cohort to try.

Make sure to include that in your brief.

80ktsClamp 11-14-2014 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1763931)
It takes a lot of licking of those suction cups to get the efb holder to stay on. There has to be a better way.

The snozberries taste like snozberries!

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flyallnite 11-14-2014 11:51 AM

Why the special MEC meeting next week?

Timbo 11-14-2014 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1763931)
It takes a lot of licking of those suction cups to get the efb holder to stay on. There has to be a better way.

There is.

I just stick my index finger up my butt and then rub the cups with the juice...

Works great, lasts a long time. ;)

"Mmmm...Nutty Flavor!"

GogglesPisano 11-14-2014 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by CheapTrick (Post 1763793)
Brief the abort in detail on the first leg with a new FO and then on subsequent briefs it's just "Aborts, previously briefed with no additions". (Unless there is an additional threat.) Aren't we all doing that?

Yes. The question is: Why? Do we brief what we go-around for on every trip?

Timbo 11-14-2014 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by MCFlyer (Post 1763896)
As a new FO, I appreciate a detailed abnormals/abort brief on the first leg of a trip. I also think it's worthwhile to re-visit the abnormals on subsequent legs. It takes very little time and sets a professional tone.

'Approaching Inbound Course' and 'Approaching Vertical Path' are also fine callouts IMHO.

What I really wish I could do as the pilot flying is configure the gear and flaps myself. It seems like everytime I want to want to configure, the Captain is talking to ATC, which causes unnecessary delays in configuring. But then again, it's probably just me...

MCFlyer

As an F/O I did this all the time, but I would first make sure I had the Capt's attention with a quick wave or nod, point at the flaps/gear, he'd usually nod for me to do it or grab it himself.

You should mention it to him after his 'first leg' brief, see if he's ok with it, but unless he's a moron, he will be ok with it.

When I'm flying as Capt. if the F/O's busy responding to ATC, I'll just point at what I want or get it myself. Nobody is too hung up on that as long as you get a nod from the other guy.

Why make it harder than it has to be?

Express pilot 11-14-2014 11:58 AM

Captain Dec Bid awards are out via backdoor. Click on Nov bid award, then change NOV to DEC on the wide report

Timbo 11-14-2014 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 1763956)
Yes. The question is: Why? Do we brief what we go-around for on every trip?

You mean you DON'T?? :eek: :eek: :D

I brief the entire go around, all buttons to be pushed, power settings, flap settings, gear up point, etc. It only takes about 5 minutes while being vectored to a different runway...then I call for the "Runway Change Checklist" ask for a hold, while I load it and brief it all over again!

I just love hearing myself talk!

Remember, we get paid by the minute, time is money, a runway change will require a new briefing, for both the approach and the go around, and you can never be too safe. So just go hold somewhere and make some money. Let SW set all the records for shortest approach, fastest landing/taxi back.


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