I seriously doubt Boeing would 'Give a Spit' about that, if they are selling hundreds of 777's and 787's to the Arabs at $300M a piece!

That's why we aren't buying Boeings, the Arabs drove the prices up! :eek:

Why would Boeing discount their jets to us, when the ME Carriers will pay full price?

And for the same reason, (demand, or lack of it) Airbus will sell us their jets cheaper. Why wouldn't RA buy from them? You KNOW he loves a bargain and hates that the ME Carriers are getting cheaper financing on new Boeings, from the I/E bank.

Your Tax Dollars, hard at work...:rolleyes:

Just because Fox and Right wing talk radio says its true, does that actually make it true?

I hope he at least stopped by the Alaska G.O. and asked permission, and got some approach plates for...

wait for it...

JUNO! :eek::eek::D

YES!!

Just ask Glen Beck! :rolleyes:

So why aren't you asking that of CNN et al? This is too easy.

Gunship don't take it personal. Labeling me liberal is unfair. ( we have not even had a beer yet! ) My issue with fox is the ever hypocritical positions. They like government when it suits them and bad mouths it when it does not match their interests. The problem with MSNBC is they just want everything and the rest of us to pay for it. American news is trash, USA today is not even worthy of toilet paper (sans the sudoku :D).

Sorry Carl, my post was intended to be facetious...I'm finding it quite entertaining watching the back pedaling and CYA'ing going on, every time he says it was "off the cuff", another video surfaces more damning than the last...Madame Pelosi claiming she didn't know the guy is priceless.

Gomer

It's gotta be a dreary day at the Alaska GO... 30 gates!

No doubt. With 30 gates you can just imagine how many Heavy JV aircraft DAL could put our passengers on. :D

Scoop

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JCBA Update: Negotiations Continuing

As reported earlier in a hotline message, the APA Negotiating Committee presented management with a comprehensive counter-proposal today designed to address the deficiencies in management's initial JCBA proposals.

Management's negotiators responded by indicating they would like to review our proposal during the next couple of days and prepare a response. Accordingly, our negotiating teams will meet again early next week. The APA board of directors recessed its meeting mid-afternoon and will reconvene Tuesday afternoon.

Key elements of our comprehensive counter-proposal include the following:

Scope modifications (review details here with proposed changes shown in "track changes" form)
In lieu of profit-sharing, a pay component of 10 percent above the following pay rates:
Group I ? A 16.29 percent increase over the Jan. 1, 2015, MTA rate, but not less than the applicable first-year pay rate
Group II ? An increase to match DL 737-800 2015 pay rate
Group III ? An increase to match DL 767-300 2015 pay rate
Group IV ? An increase to match DL 777 2015 pay rate
Group V ? A 16.29 percent increase over the Jan. 1, 2015, MTA rate

3.5 percent increase on Jan. 1, 2016
3.5 percent increase on Jan. 1, 2017
3.5 percent increase on Jan. 1, 2018
3.5 percent increase on Jan. 1, 2019

Mid-contract compensation adjustment: On the earlier of:
The effective date of a new Delta Air Lines Pilot Agreement, or
The effective date of a new United Airlines Pilot Agreement
But not earlier than Jan. 1, 2017, pay rates in Section 3 will be adjusted to the higher of the rates in the AA JCBA, the DL CBA or the UA CBA
Make A321 pay equivalent to Group III pay
Average day value of 5:20 applied to "calendar day"
Length-of-service credit for pilots with furlough time
Improvements to Long Term Disability (LTD) benefit to include increase to monthly cap and duration
Fellow pilots, we are committed to securing a negotiated agreement commensurate with your sacrifices, your role in bringing the merger to fruition and your critical role in our revitalized airline's day-to-day success. As the pilots who fly for the world's largest airline ? a company producing the highest profits in its entire history ? nothing less will do.