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Old 11-08-2014 | 06:21 PM
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I just hope ALPA doesn't f@ck things up by asking for the moon.
Not to beat a dead horse but ...


I don't think you have anything to worry about.
Old 11-08-2014 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
I don't think you have anything to worry about.
WORD! (practicing patient aggression)
Old 11-08-2014 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Yes, you can escort him. You'll need a pass from the ticketing folks. You can bypass the normal TSA line but can't use, obviously, KCM. As long as you're with him, it's cool.
Buzzpat are you sure about that? I thought if the flight operations has direct access to the ramp area then you can't bring family members into it. I know they have made a big deal about it in ATL and LAX has direct access to the ramp just like ATL.
Old 11-08-2014 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
Wonder if the increased profit sharing will equal the difference between narrow body captain pay and wide body captain pay because that is how much money a lot of pilots will be losing due to these JV's.
Well, it's a 22% increase to go from 320A to 330A (neither the highest nor the lowest paid narrow body or wide body aircraft).
Old 11-08-2014 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Our percentage of EASK's in this joint venture are down from where they are contractually required to be. Since the measuring metric is a percentage, that can ONLY mean that the Euro's percentage of EASK's are above where they are contractually required to be. It's not arguable...it's math.
Carl, you're both right. Our percentage of EASK's is certainly below that which it is required to be.

Sailingfun's point, and I understand him to be correct, is that our percentage of EASK's is almost exactly what it was just prior to AZ joining the JV and the 50% requirement being established. Delta had plans at the time to increase its flying to Europe to about 50%, and wanted to set the requirement at that level, but the softening of the trans-Atlantic market almost immediately thereafter made them change their minds.

I'm not saying that this excuses their non-compliance, only that the PWA requires a higher percentage of flying than actually existed just prior to the JV.
Old 11-08-2014 | 07:01 PM
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Note to self: Don't drop the ball on the 4 yard line and start celebrating early.

What a bizarre play!
Old 11-08-2014 | 07:05 PM
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How 'bout those Sun Devils???!!!

Go Sparky!!!
(Appropriate pix of Sparky and the usual hot ASU cheerleaders would follow,
but I don't post enough to know how to properly present them.)
Old 11-08-2014 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Humboldt
Dumb question. I have a 4 hour layover in LAX, can I take my son into Flight Ops? Is family allowed and will the door guard allow it?

Thx
When I showed my son flight ops in ATL I had to have a manager who had escort privileges accompany us. For him to be with me on my own in flight ops was not authorized.
Old 11-08-2014 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
You did not understand the data. They stated the company would have to add 6 to 7 flights a day in the last year to bring the average up to be in compliance. That number was actually up to something around 14 departures per day in Aug. The less time left the more departures they would have to add to be in compliance. The overall rate for the entire period was just under two departures per day. With the AF strike that dropped to closer to one per day if you average it over the 4 years. I think however you could make a case before the arbitrator that the shutdown of AF for several weeks should not count as it was a aberration not considered by either side when the agreement was made.
I was just emailed more numbers but they match what I posted. Just prior to the AF strike we were just over 47% of the EASK which gave us over 65% of the actual block hours. To be contractually compliant the company needed to raise that to 48.5%. With 40 to 50 departures per day it's not hard to see that two more departures per day would have produced the percentage the company needed.
Negative my friend. I understand the data full well.

A year or so into the first 3-year look-back window (2011?) RD told the MEC that to get from 47.2% to 50% would require the addition of 6-7 daily roundtrips over the course of the 3-year agreement, this wasn't a power point presentation.

Again the percentages have been accrued over years, so no, just adding a flight isn't going to magically make a 3-year lookback come up to meet the PWA test.

Even without the numbers its not hard to figure this out.
Adding Alitalia to the JV dropped our share by just over 4% points.
To claw back just 1% Delta would have to add around one quarter of all of Alitalia's North Atlantic flights.
And since our North Atlantic fleet produces fewer EASKs per departure than the fleet of the Europeans, that means even more Delta flights just to produce an equivalent number of EASKs.

Again, these are RDs numbers my friend. He said we would see 6-7 added flights over the course of the 3-year agreement.

They aren't here, and the list of excuses just keeps getting longer.

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Old 11-08-2014 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Shore
I'm not saying that this excuses their non-compliance, only that the PWA requires a higher percentage of flying than actually existed just prior to the JV.
Ding Ding Ding.
  • The PWA is a legally binding contract.
  • That's the only thing that matters, and we elect and pay good people to make sure it stays that way.
  • The shortfall in EASKs is a big deal.

Any effort to make the shortfall seem insignificant does the Delta pilots harm. It's nothing less than if the company decided they will just not give us the 3% contractually agreed upon pay raise next year...

Listening to what sailing is putting out here isn't much different than saying "it's just 3%, what's the big deal..."

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