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Old 11-17-2014 | 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Before anyone gets upset... due to repeat infractions, PD got a 3 day break. It says banned, but it's for 3 days.
That was some funny shizzle though you gotta admit.
Old 11-17-2014 | 04:41 AM
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True Headings 14-17

Why does this have no signature? Who wrote it? Why is the tone so negative?

At this point shouldn't our MEC chairman be leading? Taking charge?
Old 11-17-2014 | 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by gzsg
True Headings 14-17

Why does this have no signature? Who wrote it? Why is the tone so negative?

At this point shouldn't our MEC chairman be leading? Taking charge?
Please give an example of the negativity in the article. I don't see it.

Also, True Headings is the MEC newsletter. It's an official message from the MEC. Do you want to know specifically who wrote it?
Old 11-17-2014 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Before anyone gets upset... due to repeat infractions, PD got a 3 day break. It says banned, but it's for 3 days.
At least its not a lifetime ban like we have down in the Florida keys.

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Old 11-17-2014 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
I don't think we stayed at the same place. We initially got put up at Chitose Daiichi hotel. It was NOT good. Heck, you know how you usually turn a shower on in the tub by pulling on the knob? This hotel the shower was connected to the sink faucet! There was a knob on the sink faucet to turn on the shower! We stayed there last night.

Fortunately for the other two of us, one of my FOs was very pro-active with the company and he got us into a mucho better hotel. This job is so awesome when you fly with great guys! (Both of them of course!)

Denny

Edit: And no free breakfast! Drat!
Guess not. Entire crew was sent about 40 minutes away to the Kitahiroshima Classe. It is a golf resort in the foothills with hot springs and about 8 inches of snow on the ground. Rooms were a bit dated but clean and quiet.
Old 11-17-2014 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Before anyone gets upset... due to repeat infractions, PD got a 3 day break. It says banned, but it's for 3 days.
Originally Posted by scambo1
That was some funny shizzle though you gotta admit.
Shoot. Wish I could have gotten to read it.

Carl
Old 11-17-2014 | 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by gzsg
True Headings 14-17

Why does this have no signature? Who wrote it?
True Headings is pretty much the publication of the Special Committee. They never sign that document because they don't discuss who are members of the Special Committee.

Originally Posted by gzsg
Why is the tone so negative?
Because the Special Committee only lives to destroy the DPA or any other alternative union drive that ever happens within Delta. When your only reason for existence is to destroy other entities, you tend to be mostly negative in tone and spirit.

Originally Posted by gzsg
At this point shouldn't our MEC chairman be leading? Taking charge?
Yes, and he's clearly not. My opinion is that he's working as hard as he can to minimize pilot costs to his friends and partners in management. His challenge is doing that while pretending to be fighting for us.

Carl
Old 11-17-2014 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
True Headings is pretty much the publication of the Special Committee. They never sign that document because they don't discuss who are members of the Special Committee.

Because the Special Committee only lives to destroy the DPA or any other alternative union drive that ever happens within Delta. When your only reason for existence is to destroy other entities, you tend to be mostly negative in tone and spirit.

Yes, and he's clearly not. My opinion is that he's working as hard as he can to minimize pilot costs to his friends and partners in management. His challenge is doing that while pretending to be fighting for us.

Carl
There are several committees; Pilot 2 Pilot, Delta Pilot Network (works with Pilot 4 Pilot doing operations which might be "special" like furlough and emergency relief ... their last project I believe was the Colorado flooding) and Communications Committees. The best way for ALPA volunteers to ensure their efforts are supported is to do a good job serving the Delta pilots.

MEC Publications are typically produced by the Communications Committee and yes, names are published as part of the MEC's normal administrative responsibilities.

Carl, you are a smart man. Why do you repeat such nonsense when all you have to do is sign on to your MECs web site and employ the search function, or call a Rep?
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Originally Posted by Oberon
Please give an example of the negativity in the article. I don't see it.

Also, True Headings is the MEC newsletter. It's an official message from the MEC. Do you want to know specifically who wrote it?
First, I would contend it is not an official MEC newsletter. No where does it state that, on any of them. I could sit down today, write a bunch of what I believe are pertinent facts, publish them on line under the banner of 'True Headings' and hang them out as fact. An official MEC newsletter would be labeled as such and signed by a communications chairman and the author.

Ok. Next.

The Railway Labor Act makes the government a factor in every pilot contract, whether the involvement of the National Mediation Board is actual, or merely implied. There could be nine Section 6 notices in play a year from now, and the outcome of one contract has consequences for all the others. The failure or success of one pilot group plays a factor in the potential of all the others.


The managing of expectations has begun. Those expectations are being managed down. Without stated goals present in any communication from the MEC, this above statement does just what it is designed to do. Downward expectation management.


"With rationalized top and bottom wages in our industry, we are certainly better positioned to bargain for contract improvements than in the recent past."

Rationalized. What the phuque does that mean. Is that like Lee Moaks statement to Bloomberg/Business Week Magazine? "Our contracts are mature and need only adjustments on the margins."

Rationalized at the top says to me that DALPA is ok with the current benefit and compensation level at the top of our contract in relation to the industry. Worse, "rationalized wages at the bottom in our industry" implies ALPAs condoning the whip saw antics that see the lowering of wages at the regional level of our industry.

This is a giant fail. I expected more for the constituents prior to entering negotiations. Not this unsigned, meandering missive that has little value. Come on Dalpa. Step it up.

Not a way to start the eve of negotiations.

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Old 11-17-2014 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by TheManager
First, I would contend it is not an official MEC newsletter. No where does it state that, on any of them. I could sit down today, write a bunch of what I believe are pertinent facts, publish them on line under the banner of 'True Headings' and hang them out as fact. An official MEC newsletter would be labeled as such and signed by a communications chairman and the author.

Ok. Next.

The Railway Labor Act makes the government a factor in every pilot contract, whether the involvement of the National Mediation Board is actual, or merely implied. There could be nine Section 6 notices in play a year from now, and the outcome of one contract has consequences for all the others. The failure or success of one pilot group plays a factor in the potential of all the others.


The managing of expectations has begun. Those expectations are being managed down. Without stated goals present in any communication from the MEC, this above statement does just what it is designed to do. Downward expectation management.


"With rationalized top and bottom wages in our industry, we are certainly better positioned to bargain for contract improvements than in the recent past."

Rationalized. What the phuque does that mean. Is that like Lee Moaks statement to Bloomberg/Business Week Magazine? "Our contracts are mature and need only adjustments on the margins."

Rationalized at the top says to me that DALPA is ok with the current benefit and compensation level at the top of our contract in relation to the industry. Worse, "rationalized wages at the bottom in our industry" implies ALPAs condoning the whip saw antics that see the lowering of wages at the regional level of our industry.

This is a giant fail

Not a way to start the eve of negotiations.
Exactly.

Maybe Malone will have a surprise run for MEC chairman in Jan.

A gallon of jet fuel is down $1 since the peak in 2013. Netting Delta an additional $4 billion in profits for 2015. Why do we care what other air lines are in section 6?

Zero goals. Zero leadership. We need a new leader in Jan. I think we should hire RA and pay him $25 million. He sets goals, communicates and succeeds.
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