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Old 02-05-2015, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy View Post
I know it is absolutely inconceivable (and yes, that word means what I think it means) that there is any kind of system that operates other of the than the way DAL does it, and the very universe itself orbits around 33.75° N, 84.39 W, BUT seeing as how we have a fair number of pilots who had a different kind of sick time system, and I know I'm going off on some kind of wild tangent here, but maybe we can ask some of them how they liked that system or if they thought guys flew sick.

I know....bizarre request, huh?

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Old 02-05-2015, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
Yowza! (everyone survived)



Eeeek!

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Old 02-05-2015, 08:14 PM
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And when the company calls it pay and states they can't match Americans rates because of it what exactly would you want the Union to call it??
What if the company starts calling the brown bag with the turkey sandwich they give me on Thanksgiving in the lounge between flights pay and states they can't match American's rates?

Call it PROFIT S-H-A-R-I-N-G. Not Guaranteed Pay. How about my union worrying about negotiating the COSTS of what the company needs to pay the pilot group. Not the at risk profit sharing (which is not a COST). I'm not an accountant, but my understanding is that if profits go up (thus Profit Sharing goes up), it's not resulting in greater costs for the company. Therefore, that's not a valid excuse as to why they can't match American.

How come my union didn't bring up getting pay rate increases for "at risk compensation" before 2012, like say at the merger? OH, only when it's something someone else wants? Heck, I see their point of view--I kind of like those dollars too. So how about we leave that alone and work on the improving the rates that need work instead of chipping away at the part of the contract we're very pleased with? I know, I know....I don't understand how the system works.

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Old 02-05-2015, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
Yowza! (everyone survived)

This incident, near fatal accident happened operating out of a small airport near Superior, WI. A friend I work with is familiar with these clowns , and they have had MANY other close calls. (This time they weren't so lucky, or were lucky that nobody was injured/killed.)

P.S. One of these times, these hooligans are actually going to succeed at hurting someone, either in the air or on the ground.
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Old 02-05-2015, 08:18 PM
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Don't forget about the next prezzy...following her automatic nolo coronation from her party and lame stream media (same thing) lying about coming under sniper fire. Or the new "lion" of the Senate lying about her ethnicity in order to scam her way through school. Although to her credit she was saying "you didn't build that" before the manchurian organizer was.
I think some here have no idea what you're referencing. These news stories and others on government scheming such as Jonathan Gruber aren't covered by the sources where some get their talking points, errrrr "news."
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Old 02-05-2015, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by GunshipGuy View Post
I think some here have no idea what you're referencing. These news stories and others on government scheming such as Jonathan Gruber aren't covered by the sources where some get their talking points, errrrr "news."
It's funny how this discussion started from someone expressing condolences to family of the Jordan pilot that was killed.
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Old 02-05-2015, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank View Post
After reading SD's memo, I'd have to say it could be construed as motivation for some guys to take even more sick time. I'm not advocating it, but could you imagine the leverage DALPA's negotiators would have if even a quarter of the pilot group used all 100 unverified sick hours?

In any case, mamangement squeezes every ounce of productivity to the point of skirting the contract. And now they're coming after us for alleged sick "abuse" that they don't bother trying to prove. Not a good way to produce employees who want to go "above and beyond."
I just read SD's memo, too. Where can I find the Pilot Activity Statement that compares my on time percentages to the rest of the group?
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Old 02-05-2015, 08:39 PM
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I just read SD's memo, too. Where can I find the Pilot Activity Statement that compares my on time percentages to the rest of the group?
That's coming in PAS 2.0 which will be out on 13 Feb. I assume you'll access it in the same manner as your current PAS.
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Old 02-05-2015, 08:40 PM
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It's funny how this discussion started from someone expressing condolences to family of the Jordan pilot that was killed.
No, it started with someone asking about how things were going with Delta interviews and new hires.
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That's coming in PAS 2.0 which will be out on 13 Feb.
Thanks. As you can see, I was skimming.
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