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Old 02-05-2015 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
And when the company calls it pay and states they can't match Americans rates because of it what exactly would you want the Union to call it??
DALPA should call it a "Bonus" and NOT TOUCH IT.

A "bonus" is not normal hourly compensation and should not be considered in pay rate comparisons...it's a "bonus payment".

ANY modification to Profit Sharing in the next 4-5 years is a NO VOTE by me (unless it's an increase).
Old 02-05-2015 | 06:15 PM
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Please tell me your joking. Turned on the news today? Didn't hear about Brian Williams lying about being on a helicopter in Iraq that was hit by a RPG?

Here: NBC's Brian Williams recants Iraq claim :roll eyes:

Remember Dan Rather citing bogus military documents about G.W. Bush's national guard service?
Don't forget about the next prezzy...following her automatic nolo coronation from her party and lame stream media (same thing) lying about coming under sniper fire. Or the new "lion" of the Senate lying about her ethnicity in order to scam her way through school. Although to her credit she was saying "you didn't build that" before the manchurian organizer was.
Old 02-05-2015 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
whatever they want.

I'll bet the first ever contract to be voted down at Delta will be C2015 if we don't beat AA rates AND keep profit sharing. (Along with no CDO's,)
And any scope concessions at any level, any sick time reduction/harassment/concessions or any banding/freeze/block time schennegans.
Old 02-05-2015 | 06:29 PM
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Is there a place to add TSA PreCheck number to our travel net profile? I can't find anything in there.
Put the trusted traveler number in the TSA page (the ones that comes up when you make a listing) and as FullofLuv said, it remembers it. It will keep showing up for future listings.
Old 02-05-2015 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
And when the company calls it pay and states they can't match Americans rates because of it what exactly would you want the Union to call it??
ALPA beat them to the punch... they have been counting it in the pay charts since C2012 trying to nudge our "effective" rates past C2000
Old 02-05-2015 | 07:13 PM
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Yowza! (everyone survived)

Old 02-05-2015 | 07:16 PM
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The last thing I want to do is fly with guys who are sick and too cheap to call in...It is already bad enough because guys use sick time for other things, and then when they are sick they fly.. It would only get worse if Delta pays pilots to come to work sick instead of calling in. Paying for unused sick time is a big mistake.
I know it is absolutely inconceivable (and yes, that word means what I think it means) that there is any kind of system that operates other of the than the way DAL does it, and the very universe itself orbits around 33.75° N, 84.39 W, BUT seeing as how we have a fair number of pilots who had a different kind of sick time system, and I know I'm going off on some kind of wild tangent here, but maybe we can ask some of them how they liked that system or if they thought guys flew sick.

I know....bizarre request, huh?

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Old 02-05-2015 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
I know it is absolutely inconceivable (and yes, that word means what I think it means) that there is any kind of system that operates other of the than the way DAL does it, and the very universe itself orbits around 33.75° N, 84.39 W, BUT seeing as how we have a fair number of pilots who had a different kind of sick time system, and I know I'm going off on some kind of wild tangent here, but maybe we can ask some of them how they liked that system or if they thought guys flew sick.

I know....bizarre request, huh?

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Old 02-05-2015 | 07:21 PM
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Yowza! (everyone survived)



Eeeek!

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Old 02-05-2015 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
And when the company calls it pay and states they can't match Americans rates because of it what exactly would you want the Union to call it??
What if the company starts calling the brown bag with the turkey sandwich they give me on Thanksgiving in the lounge between flights pay and states they can't match American's rates?

Call it PROFIT S-H-A-R-I-N-G. Not Guaranteed Pay. How about my union worrying about negotiating the COSTS of what the company needs to pay the pilot group. Not the at risk profit sharing (which is not a COST). I'm not an accountant, but my understanding is that if profits go up (thus Profit Sharing goes up), it's not resulting in greater costs for the company. Therefore, that's not a valid excuse as to why they can't match American.

How come my union didn't bring up getting pay rate increases for "at risk compensation" before 2012, like say at the merger? OH, only when it's something someone else wants? Heck, I see their point of view--I kind of like those dollars too. So how about we leave that alone and work on the improving the rates that need work instead of chipping away at the part of the contract we're very pleased with? I know, I know....I don't understand how the system works.

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