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badflaps 12-06-2014 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by daldude (Post 1777838)
Totally agree 100%. Just had back to back 8:45 block 13 hour duty days and there is no time to eat.

How is that better than the old rules?

Justdoinmyjob 12-06-2014 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by TheManager (Post 1777544)
So. Devils advocate here.

What if everything he said was factual.

How does it then make it disparaging or disrespectful.

If so, he might have a wrongful termination suit.

If he gave an interview while wearing anything with the Delta logo or brand on it, and he didn't get approval of his department head, regardless of whether the information was factual or not, that is a firable event. Doesn't anyone read the corporate handbook around here?

Same thing happened to Ellen Simonetti, the "Sky Goddess." Google it.

Howgozit 12-06-2014 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1777755)
Does anyone else think its lame that domestically we only get meals above a 5:30 Block? Showing up at the gate 1 hour prior on a 4-5 hour block can often lead to 6-7 hours without a meal.

Here we are as a company making a great profit - partially due to the sacrifices and concessions made by this Pilot group. Obviously we expect a restoration in regards to pay but what about some simple QOL items like a hot meal if they are being served to Business class?

I believe our MEC Chairman said something about "The best Contract." Well American guys get meals and I believe they kept their meals even through the BK. I think it is quite reasonable to expect a meal if it is already being provided for the business class passengers. Hell they are already loading 12-24 meals why not just load 2 more.

I realize that some Pilots do not like the crew meals and would prefer to bring/purchase food and that is fine but we should have the option of a hot meal if one is already being served to our passengers.

Scoop

You do know we have some hungry flight attendants and their cats, even if they board 24 meals 0 will make to the flight deck.

Purple Drank 12-06-2014 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by daldude (Post 1777838)
Totally agree 100%. Just had back to back 8:45 block 13 hour duty days and there is no time to eat.

We've got to take care of ourselves and eat, even it causes a delay.

A few delays and busted rotations on these ludicrous days, and perhaps the company will tweak some parameters on its rotation optimizer algorithm.

badflaps 12-06-2014 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1777857)
If he gave an interview while wearing anything with the Delta logo or brand on it, and he didn't get approval of his department head, regardless of whether the information was factual or not, that is a firable event. Doesn't anyone read the corporate handbook around here?

Same thing happened to Ellen Simonetti, the "Sky Goddess." Google it.

Years ago they had a pilot comment on TV about an accident, they almost canned him, but they realized he was Canadian, and didn't know any better.

MikeF16 12-06-2014 07:43 PM

I probably need to call scheduling on this one, but I'd like to at least think I know the answer before I ask the question.

I finish IOE on the 19th of December. My reserve obligation ends on 20 December. I have a golden day on 21 December. Is it possible to be assigned a trip on 20 December?

My logic: Long call starts at 12:01 on 20 December. If I am assigned short call the earliest they can do it is 10am, plus 2 hours to get to airport which means noon. Since the following day is a golden day, I am released at noon.

Is my logic sound? Just trying to figure out if I need to commute to my crash pad in NYC or if I can safely chill out at the house with no legal reserve obligation.

daldude 12-06-2014 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by MikeF16 (Post 1777896)
I probably need to call scheduling on this one, but I'd like to at least think I know the answer before I ask the question.

I finish IOE on the 19th of December. My reserve obligation ends on 20 December. I have a golden day on 21 December. Is it possible to be assigned a trip on 20 December?

My logic: Long call starts at 12:01 on 20 December. If I am assigned short call the earliest they can do it is 10am, plus 2 hours to get to airport which means noon. Since the following day is a golden day, I am released at noon.

Is my logic sound? Just trying to figure out if I need to commute to my crash pad in NYC or if I can safely chill out at the house with no legal reserve obligation.

If they have not given you a trip or short call by midnight there is no reason to commute. Enjoy the day off.

scambo1 12-06-2014 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by badflaps (Post 1777856)
How is that better than the old rules?

They blinded (bullshat) me with science. Science!

scambo1 12-06-2014 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by MikeF16 (Post 1777896)
I probably need to call scheduling on this one, but I'd like to at least think I know the answer before I ask the question.

I finish IOE on the 19th of December. My reserve obligation ends on 20 December. I have a golden day on 21 December. Is it possible to be assigned a trip on 20 December?

My logic: Long call starts at 12:01 on 20 December. If I am assigned short call the earliest they can do it is 10am, plus 2 hours to get to airport which means noon. Since the following day is a golden day, I am released at noon.

Is my logic sound? Just trying to figure out if I need to commute to my crash pad in NYC or if I can safely chill out at the house with no legal reserve obligation.

The golden day is a hard no fly day...as I read it, your logic is correct.

SawF16 12-06-2014 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by MikeF16 (Post 1777896)
I probably need to call scheduling on this one, but I'd like to at least think I know the answer before I ask the question.

I finish IOE on the 19th of December. My reserve obligation ends on 20 December. I have a golden day on 21 December. Is it possible to be assigned a trip on 20 December?

My logic: Long call starts at 12:01 on 20 December. If I am assigned short call the earliest they can do it is 10am, plus 2 hours to get to airport which means noon. Since the following day is a golden day, I am released at noon.

Is my logic sound? Just trying to figure out if I need to commute to my crash pad in NYC or if I can safely chill out at the house with no legal reserve obligation.

Careful- your logic here is only sound if you arent placed on short call. They can put you on 1000 short call and call you for a trip reporting at anytime during your one day, as long as they put it on your schedule before noon. That is- they call you at 10:15, tell you you have a 1300 report that blocks in at 2315- totally within the bounds of the contract. Nevermind the fact that they could give you a report time before noon and just say "get here ASAP".

If there is no further work on your last on call day prior to hard no fly day at noon, then you are released. Doesnt necessarily mean you have to be started by noon.

If they dont put you on short call, same applies, they can theoretically call you at 0300 for a 1500 report, as long as it fits in your one day footprint. Based on whether they could fit a one day trip in, you can start to feel more comfortable, but not off the hook until noon.

Im not saying any of these is probable, but they are possible.


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