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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1728924)

fixed it for ya.....

If that happens, blame that on Boeing.

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1728923)

This place isn't remotely a barometer of the feelings of the pilot group. This place is the 3rd standard deviation at best... on both sides.... We all talk about whatever is blowing in the wind at any given moment, and for right now it happens to be CDOs... again.

I kind of agree, I don't think it's a barometer of the pilot group, just a barometer of the pilots who are paying attention.

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Originally Posted by Ed Harley (Post 1728930)

The fact that this order seems to keep moving to later in the year tells me that it will be a part of our C2015 contract, i.e., we'll order not just 50 WB's but 100 WB's if the pilots agree to the company's early C2015 offer.

Want to make a wager on that?

I guess the bucket system for reserves doesn't really matter anymore. The lastest crew scheds method, at least for ATL 320B, is to just put every reserve on short call every day.

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Originally Posted by Fly4hire (Post 1728874)

Our PWA is the sum of numerous QOL, pay, and productivity sections. No one section is so important that the others do not require focused attention. That was a big part of the survey - to prioritize.

Agreed.

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Originally Posted by Fly4hire (Post 1728874)

What really bothered me about the CDO question, besides the fact it appears to be an MEC Admin inserted question is the specificity of the questions - they read like specific contract language as opposed to more broad goal objectives on the other questions. It's as if they are taking the very specific language that was shot down - by the majority of the MEC from the previous LOA - and asking what we would need to sharpshoot it to make it something you desire.

Everyone needs to pay attention to this - we are being setup, similar to the age 65 strategy, to have this included in the TA. What's more telling is, despite hard proof to the contrary - from the MEC Chairman himself - it is not due to an obscure LEC resolution that was defeated 7 months ago, nor due to the unscientific, self-selection biased survey by the DPA, that back channel scapegoating for CDO language in our TA has already begun :eek:.

I recently attended one of the survey roadshows. The issue of leading questions came up, as did the origin of some questions, e.g., CDOs. These are my takeaways. Take them for what they're worth...

1) Lots of effort went into making the questions as comprehensive and impartial as possible, but everybody will likely find one or more questions that they believe to be leading in a particular direction.

2) There was no desire on the part of the NC to have us answer a certain way. They just want to know what we think and what we want. There are a number of different directions that negotiations might go, and the more they know about what's preferable to us, the more closely they can match our desires.

3) Questions on profit sharing, CDOs, pay banding, etc. come from beliefs that these issues may be brought up in negotiations by the other side. Knowing ahead of time how we feel about them gives the MEC and NC data on how to respond.

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Originally Posted by Fly4hire (Post 1728874)

Also said hell no to CDO's in any form.

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Originally Posted by Ed Harley (Post 1728930)

There was a news piece put out about 2-3 months ago giving the reason for pushing it back...I think it had to do with the Neo unveiling and time to study it. Anyway, if it gets pushed to next year, I agree with you.

Progression, it's a pay raise...right?:confused:

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Originally Posted by Mem9guy (Post 1728981)

I guess the bucket system for reserves doesn't really matter anymore. The lastest crew scheds method, at least for ATL 320B, is to just put every reserve on short call every day.

Why shouldn't they. There's nothing in the contract to prevent them from doing so. Let me guess, they're rarely if ever using them right? Our answer in the last contract was to raise the min number of SC's in high ALV months and raise the TLV to a point that makes it virtually nonexistent. Convenient.

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Originally Posted by EdGrimley (Post 1728801)

Big order for big jets coming from Delta Air Lines

For the purposes of this article "Big Order" = 50 airplanes. Who knows when they will show up. Also, these could just be replacing the ones going away.

And they could be replacing existing lift on a pilot negative basis. It takes a lot less 330/777 block hours to fly the same number of pax that we do in ER's, especially if all we do is take them to a select few EU hubs and they transfer from there on our "partners" to destinations we used to, and still currently, fly to ourselves directly.

Experts: Using PB days, it was my understanding that in the past, upon getting a reg line, a pilot could use a banked PB day to drop a trip, and then pick it back up on the very same pcs run since drops run before pickups. (as long as no one senior had a blanket WS in and would get the newly dropped trip).

Is this still possible? Or did the rules change with an LOA awhile ago? The same LOA that changed "trip parking." If I did this on a noon PCS run, can I pick up the dropped trip at noon? Or do I have to wait till the 1700 run?

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1728964)

If that happens, blame that on Boeing.

Boeing doesn't care about us at all. They are too buzy laundering US consumer and taxpayer money through ME middlemen due to intentionally failed energy policy and our leading role in providing a global police state. They benefit on both ends, they're loving every minute of it, and our little 50 plane order is a line item joke for them.