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rvr350 09-15-2014 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 1727755)
Must be why they teach you how to access the back door on the Mad Dog during IOE.

"The Mad Dog - it's not an Award, it's a two year sentence!"

To some, it's more like a lifetime. Hot in summer, drenched in type 4 in winter.

Bucking Bar 09-15-2014 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 1727755)
Must be why they teach you how to access the back door on the Mad Dog during IOE.

"The Mad Dog - it's not an Award, it's a two year sentence!"

You mean the Cuban air stairs?

forgot to bid 09-15-2014 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by orvil (Post 1727681)
In my opinion, this was another problem with CDO's. What happens with one when no one wants it? It goes to a reserve. It's not right to dump this on a reserve who has no say about it. For some of us, reserve is not a choice.

I'm still a strong no. If a reserve can refuse the assignment with no penalty, that would be an improvement.

I spoke with a LEC rep, not mine. He said that the reason the CDO question was even on the survey was to mollify a small, vocal group that was in favor of them. DALPA was hoping for a strong no response. If the got they got a strong no response, they could tell the vocal group to pound sand. He said the Company didn't want them, but would take them it they could get them.

I told the rep that we had already risen up and spoken against them with a roar. If this information is true, this minority lobbying for CDO's needs to go away.

I don't get it. If it's a strong vocal minority and everyone at DALPA knows its a small minority, why then was the NC putting it into the last LOA? Especially if the company "didn't want it."

I still don't understand why the company wouldn't want it, it's a good deal for them... which is probably why they wanted them.

TenYearsGone 09-15-2014 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1727727)
Why did you choose an irrevocable?

I have a trust, but it's not irrevocable. Each trust category has it's non-benefits. It's kinda like life insurance...I'm dead right? Why should I care?

If there was a perfect trust category, I haven't found it yet.

Hey Scambo..My attorney led me the path of an irrevocable trust. Our scenario: We have a very nice business that has a nice value to it and in our personal life we have a few nice assets that are very valuable. With out going into too much detail, our attorney recommended the
irrevocable path.

Here are some good pointers: Revocable vs Irrevocable Trusts - Wills and Estate Planning


TEN

Bullcom 09-15-2014 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1726723)
Brain trust question...

Going to Germany/Europe with the family in a few weeks. Which rental car company do we get the best discount with?

Is it still beneficial to make the reservation in the states for pickup over there or does it matter anymore?

We are going to Garmisch/partenkirken for 5 days then Salzburg for another 5.

Open to input from anyone who has gouge on those places and that area.

Gonna get fat on schweinhoxen and augustiner pils (not the Munich stuff, the Trappist stuff in Salzburg). Gonna work it off mountain biking. Yeah!

If you climb a bit, look into doing the via ferrata up the alpspitz. you can take the gondola to the base of the climb. I bet you can rent a harness and lanyards in town somewhere. I took my 9 and 11 yo up it a couple of years ago. The down hike is the crux actually. Lots of huttas in the hills around cgarmisch to hike up to and grab lunch and a beer also. The zugspits has a ferrata on it but I believe it is a bit more technical and committing.

buzzpat 09-15-2014 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1726723)
Brain trust question...

Going to Germany/Europe with the family in a few weeks. Which rental car company do we get the best discount with?

Is it still beneficial to make the reservation in the states for pickup over there or does it matter anymore?

We are going to Garmisch/partenkirken for 5 days then Salzburg for another 5.

Open to input from anyone who has gouge on those places and that area.

Gonna get fat on schweinhoxen and augustiner pils (not the Munich stuff, the Trappist stuff in Salzburg). Gonna work it off mountain biking. Yeah!

If you still have a mil ID, use EuroCar and pickup at a military installation. When staying in Garmisch, there's an awesome military hotel at the base of the slopes. Call in advance. Its Army as I recall. Also, you can buy discounted fuel tickets at the local BX/PX/NEX that will save you tons. You might have to be on orders, I can't remember. We were and it saves a bunch.

On the way to Salzurg there's a fantastic MWR facility on a lake just outside.We stayed there for a few days and then went into Salzburg. Very nice sampling of the countryside and then the city. The beer is awesome everywhere!

Carl Spackler 09-16-2014 04:00 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1727855)
I don't get it. If it's a strong vocal minority and everyone at DALPA knows its a small minority, why then was the NC putting it into the last LOA? Especially if the company "didn't want it."

I still don't understand why the company wouldn't want it, it's a good deal for them... which is probably why they wanted them.

Unlike you FTB I'm all about making people happy. So here's how we make the strong vocal minority happy:

1. Allow CDO's.
2. Create a bid sub-category called "I wanted CDO's."
3. Any CDO's not specifically bid would cause a PBS shuffle and be inversely awarded to pilots in the "I wanted CDO's" sub-category.
4. Once awarded, CDO's could not be dropped.
5. If sick call occurred for a CDO, it could only be covered by a pilot in the "I wanted CDO's" sub-category.
6. If a CDO ever had to be cancelled due to unavailabilty from the "I wanted CDO's" sub-category, CDO's would cease.

See...everybody happy now!

Carl

daldude 09-16-2014 04:39 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1728000)
Unlike you FTB I'm all about making people happy. So here's how we make the strong vocal minority happy:

1. Allow CDO's.
2. Create a bid sub-category called "I wanted CDO's."
3. Any CDO's not specifically bid would cause a PBS shuffle and be inversely awarded to pilots in the "I wanted CDO's" sub-category.
4. Once awarded, CDO's could not be dropped.
5. If sick call occurred for a CDO, it could only be covered by a pilot in the "I wanted CDO's" sub-category.
6. If a CDO ever had to be cancelled due to unavailabilty from the "I wanted CDO's" sub-category, CDO's would cease.

See...everybody happy now!

Carl

I like it. Same hoe for every one that wants 5 day trips.

Check Essential 09-16-2014 04:42 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1727855)
I don't get it. If it's a strong vocal minority and everyone at DALPA knows its a small minority, why then was the NC putting it into the last LOA? Especially if the company "didn't want it."

The squeaky wheel gets the grease. The guys who wanted CDOs did the required legwork. They filed a resolution and then they got organized and went to their LEC meeting and got it passed.

To be fair and balanced though, there was definitely a huge failure at the MEC level to not communicate to the wider pilot group that they were actually negotiating these things. There was no reason to keep the CDO's a secret.
Thankfully there were enough guys paying attention at the ratification meeting to get the word out the day before the MEC voted.

If it wasn't for this forum we would have CDO's in our contract right now.

sailingfun 09-16-2014 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1727855)
I don't get it. If it's a strong vocal minority and everyone at DALPA knows its a small minority, why then was the NC putting it into the last LOA? Especially if the company "didn't want it."

I still don't understand why the company wouldn't want it, it's a good deal for them... which is probably why they wanted them.

Many items in a contract would not be wanted by the majority if put to a vote on a item by item basis. 12 and 13 day trips would be the first thing I would kill if given the chance yet some Delta pilots love them. 5 day domestic trips are not well liked either. I bet both would not pass a line item vote. All nighters would probably be voted out 99 to 1 if given a choice. The fact that a minority of pilots would like a change does not mean it should be ignored. We work under a system that gives flexibility to try and avoid types of flying a pilot may not want.


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