flyallnite

Are we still at the GM building? If so, I wouldn't venture far, unless into Canada. Still, you should be able to find Bells brewing on tap at most bars, maybe even the hotel bar. If you can find any Greenbush brewing beer... let me know... Both are Michigan breweries. Prost!

JungleBus

My rep (C66) got back to me very quickly with a pretty detailed, frank response including the pros and cons of the TA as he sees them, and attached the full language of the TA. Going to mull over his arguments/explanations for a day or so before replying. I think he'll likely end up voting for it, but at least the communication was prompt and open. So why the blackout from other councils?

Purple Drank

I'm pretty sure Council 1 emailed the full TA language to everyone in the council.

JungleBus

I don't think I'm "that guy," but I suppose "that guy" never thinks he's "that guy," so who knows. I just know the incident really floored me when it happened - enough that I dropped off APC for six months - and I thought coming back merited letting him know what I thought of his bullying. Guess I just need to know when to let sleeping dogs lie...

fsuskypilot

I'm relocating from NJ to NW Arkansas at the end of Jan. If anyone here commutes out of XNA to ATL or NYC I'd be interested to hear about it.

JungleBus

Yeah, I initially got it from this thread, and then a Council 1 friend emailed it to me. It's my understanding that 66 and 20 are giving it out to members that ask for it.

JungleBus

By the way, best places I've found near long DTW hotel for a brew:

Jacoby's (both German beers & craft beers)
Foran's Grand Trunk Pub (fantastic selection of craft beers on tap)

Foran's is closer, Jacoby's is maybe 4 or 5 blocks away.

BlaneO

You've got FSM to use for NW Ark commutes, too. Not sure if Delta flies direct to NYC, but some carriers do (for the Walmart/Tyson's corporate crowd).

iaflyer

It's a tough commute to get from XNA to the NE. My friend did it for a while to BOS - two legs of course, thru ORD because the 1-leg flt on American (Envoy) (XNA-LGA) don't go frequently enough to commute on. More flights to ATL on Delta, of course with some mainline.

Honestly, it a tough, tough commute with a surprisingly large number of commuters for the size of the area is what he says. He commutes to Dallas now and rides the jumpseat a lot.

Bucking Bar

Carl,

By "worst case" do you mean with the Virgin JV, or without?

Without the JV, something like 300,000 international widebody block hours are unprotected.

JV scope is limiting, not a goal. We should not assume to know what the Company's plans are; economics change moment by moment. But we can, and do, build baseline protections ... and in this case, ensure our participation in growth.

Along those lines, Heathrow is slot controlled and it makes sense to run the largest gauge available into those limited slots. If so, Delta would have to add more international wide body block hours to keep up on an Available Seat Kilometer basis.

Again, we are debating an LOA which has not yet been fully vetted by and debated by our Reps, the men we trust to perform the job with the assistance of subject matter experts. We should defer to our Negotiator's Notepad and Reps' communications.