First, when was this JV ever a six party agreement? Second, before the addition of Alitalia, we were supposed to be at 51.5% and the euros were supposed to be at 48.5%. if memory serves, I don't believe we Delta pilots EVER got more than about 50.5%...and that was for a very short time.

From 51.5% to our approx 47% today represents an awful lot of actual jobs lost, and jobs we never got.

Carl

George, what you have just posted matches up almost exactly with what I posted a few days ago that you said was all wrong. I stated we were above 47%. The above confirms it and does not account for the AF strike which adds about a half percent.

DAL never operated 54% of the EASK's. Never. I think you meant to say DAL operated 46%-54% of the EASK's.

And that's where Delta first showed its contempt for our scope. They had no contractual right to draw down flying to match capacity with demand. Route profitability was not a reason in our scope that allowed them to be in non-compliance. Not even our negotiators would have agreed to a profitability provision. Yet here we are excusing it as a business decision.

Again, it wasn't supposed to matter what RA wants or doesn't want. That's why we have a contract instead of an FOM like at some non-union outfit.

Oh wait...

Carl

First off the 47.1% snapshot was in February 2013, it is now December 2014 nearly 22 months later...

Take a look at the entire 36-month look-back period.

You'll see that the initial 36 months from April 2011 to March 2014 contain considerable portions above the lower compliance band.

When we measure the 36-months look-back at the end of March 2015, the start point will shift right to April 2012, and even the highest point of the 36-month rolling average will then fall below the 48.5% lower band...

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...ng-average.png

I'm sure you understand this...

Cheers
George

I just heard from a reliable company pilot that the 757 fleet will be 100 +/- a few. Kinda looking for some "newer" used ones as well to replace some of our oldest ones. Keeping ER's longer as well.

You are correct. I don't know what the confusion on this issue is. On September 30 S.D. and his team rolled into LAX for the FLT OPS roadshow. This exact question was asked and the answer was 90 DAL owned 757s and 10 leased back from the NBA.

Now everything is obviously subject to change but I have heard about 15 different numbers since then, but if you cant trust the FLT OPs team with the Network guy and the Fleet guy both saying 90 + 10, then all other numbers are also meaningless.

Scoop

How many do we have right now? Anyone know that answer?

According to the ship attributes page, 141 757s.

Unbelievable. A survival measure? We were and are making billions. Keeping those flights (and their word in the contract they signed with us) would have made those flights unprofitable most likely, but would have had no bearing on the survival of Delta. It might not have been "screw those Delta pilots", but it definitely was: "I'm not about to let that contract diminish our profit and my bonus." And with DALPA It was: If Richard's happy...we're happy."

Carl

How long do you think Delta would keep pilots on the payroll flying unprofitable flights just to meet a manning formula? How long did it take all the unprofitable flights Delta flew around under the "Carpet Bagger" to contribute to the bankruptcy?