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I didn't get that impression, just an uneasy feeling that they were getting a little ahead of themselves by hinting so early. There are a number of ways of limiting tax exposure, none of which I claim to understand. Some of them are coming under scrutiny. Google "lux leaks". I assume we'd do something less controversial.

sailingfun

12-15-2014 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hillbilly (Post 1784035)

Thanks shiz!! That's what I was looking for. This helped me understand the history on the issue a little better.

His numbers are wrong. They are urban legend. We never had 54% of the EASK and in fact were never over 48% until the Alitalia agreement. Both sides pulled down basically a equal amount with some deviations at different times.
Here are the numbers for the last 10 years.

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e...ps189b8642.jpg

thefoxsays

12-15-2014 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug Masters (Post 1784056)

They gotta make sure you get unstacked to fly new years. At least that usually is what happens to me. Takes a few runs I guess. ;)

This is my guess.

georgetg

12-15-2014 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1784064)

Aha, I see so this Delta ALPA chart must be incorrect then:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...%2C%202011.png

Cheers
George

georgetg

12-15-2014 05:03 PM

Fast forward 36 months and it looks like this:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...2036-month.png

Cheers
George

P.S. But sailing will say these charts are somehow "fake", while the chart he posted from the same presentation "legit"

georgetg

12-15-2014 05:05 PM

And here is your shortfall:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...0Shortfall.png

Cheers
George

georgetg

12-15-2014 05:10 PM

Oh and pre Alitalia, as Shiznit pointed out, our allocation was above 50%, in fact the contract required it:

Quote:

LOA 16, 1.P.4 The baseline EASK allocations are 51.7% for DL and 48.3% for AF/KL.

Cheers
George

shiznit

12-15-2014 05:18 PM

George. IMHO, I disagree that the VAJV TA had to do with the failure to abide by AF/KL/AZ JV numbers or the future grievance... They are independent of each other and have very different structures.

The Company is hosed on AF/KL as a win/loss in the grievance... Determining a remedy will be much more challenging.

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