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sailingfun 12-30-2014 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by marcal (Post 1793028)
I recently did a GS that was a day trip. I blocked 3 hours. Am I getting paid 6, or 10:30 b/c of 5:15/day?

I was under the impression its 10:30.

10:30 as long as you have met the GS trigger.

sailingfun 12-30-2014 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by PilotFrog (Post 1793043)
If your name is your real email address I HIGHLY suggest you change it NOW. You'll be inundated in spam mail.

However you will make millions helping Nigerian princes move their money to the U.S.!

Carl Spackler 12-30-2014 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1792785)
I had one a few months back where I was hoping for a GS day trip and sure enough scheduling called. I was ready. My phone wasn't. It would not register my finger sliding across the screen to answer the call. Nothing I could do would make it work.

I missed the call. Finally got it to work within a few seconds and called back. By the time I got to a scheduler the trip had been assigned to someone else.


That's not what happened at all. It was FTB's love for peanut butter that did him in:





Carl

Oberon 12-30-2014 03:18 PM

Oberon's half baked plan to improve the green slip process...

The fact that the only method of communication for green slips is phone and they have to give you ten minutes to respond and you don't even get the chance to say "no" is antiquated. At the very least we should get the option of text message notifications. They could send a text with the trip and you could reply "accept", "decline", or nothing and they would move on in ten minutes. This would be much more efficient.

In the case of less than two hour trips they could send a mass text to everyone who has a GS in and is legal. The first to reply gets the trip. Admittedly, this could be problematic in a few ways; 1) calls now go out in seniority order for short notice GS but they wouldn't with text messages, 2) this would only work if text message notifications were required and I'm sure there are a lot of "get off my lawn" types who don't understand new-fangled technology:D, 3) if they put a 45 minute report time on it but you couldn't get there for two hours you would need to negotiate this with scheduling which would require a phone call or at least a text message conversation. I guess they could just substitute text messages with phone calls and use the same process they do now...like I said "half baked idea".

That said, text messages are old technology. A real win-win solution is a comprehensive app that allows notifications for green slips and open time as well as some form of communication with scheduling. I'm not sure exactly what it would look like but a system where pilots could see open trips easily and passively would benefit the company and the pilots.

Oberon 12-30-2014 03:22 PM

...as far as $4,000 beers, it's none of your business how a co-worker values his time. He might have a good reason for going to work instead of being at home or he might not. It's no one's business but his.

profit 12-30-2014 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1793097)
Oberon's half baked plan to improve the green slip process...

The fact that the only method of communication for green slips is phone and they have to give you ten minutes to respond and you don't even get the chance to say "no" is antiquated. At the very least we should get the option of text message notifications. They could send a text with the trip and you could reply "accept", "decline", or nothing and they would move on in ten minutes. This would be much more efficient.

In the case of less than two hour trips they could send a mass text to everyone who has a GS in and is legal. The first to reply gets the trip. Admittedly, this could be problematic in a few ways; 1) calls now go out in seniority order for short notice GS but they wouldn't with text messages, 2) this would only work if text message notifications were required and I'm sure there are a lot of "get off my lawn" types who don't understand new-fangled technology:D, 3) if they put a 45 minute report time on it but you couldn't get there for two hours you would need to negotiate this with scheduling which would require a phone call or at least a text message conversation. I guess they could just substitute text messages with phone calls and use the same process they do now...like I said "half baked idea".

That said, text messages are old technology. A real win-win solution is a comprehensive app that allows notifications for green slips and open time as well as some form of communication with scheduling. I'm not sure exactly what it would look like but a system where pilots could see open trips easily and passively would benefit the company and the pilots.

Why not a mass text, then they go down the list of respondents after the 10 minutes is up?

thinkstraight 12-30-2014 05:10 PM

Because not everyone pays for texts. We're pilots after all...

Purple Drank 12-30-2014 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1793097)
Oberon's half baked plan to improve the green slip process...

The fact that the only method of communication for green slips is phone and they have to give you ten minutes to respond and you don't even get the chance to say "no" is antiquated. At the very least we should get the option of text message notifications. They could send a text with the trip and you could reply "accept", "decline", or nothing and they would move on in ten minutes. This would be much more efficient.

In the case of less than two hour trips they could send a mass text to everyone who has a GS in and is legal.

It's a huge mistake to put any more responsibility on us pilots to check text messages, etc. I don't want the company pinging my PEDs at all hours of the day and night. We shouldn't volunteer to pay for anything the company would benefit from far more than we would.

Your idea of sending a "first come first served" text message to everyone who is legal for and wants a green slip is asinine. What's the point of seniority, then? Let's just draw straws for the good trips. I guess it's a bonanza for you.

Remember when several robocalls went out to folks in rest a few months back? I don't trust Delta IT to implement anything more complicated than a cup of coffee.

I'm happy with the onus of positive contact on the company. The friction in the system is the company's cost of doing business-- not ours.

Bucking Bar 12-30-2014 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by CheapTrick (Post 1792924)
I've averaged a greenie a month in 2014. They probably averaged $4k per. Yesterday I celebrated 30 yrs of marriage. (Yep, same woman.) And she's way cool with the green slips. You see, she knows green slips don't flow hot and heavy all the time. Putting away some grain in the good years, means you eat in the lean years.

FWIW, I split the after tax income with the other parental unit. With young kids at home she's a lot happier with "skin in the game." ... and I end up giving her the money anyway. ...

Bucking Bar 12-30-2014 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1792907)
I saw the issue of putting in for a blanket GS has been discussed and would just like to throw in my 2 cents.

There is nothing wrong with putting in a 1-30 blanket GS request - I do it all the time.

Scoop :)

The only caveat being the length of the Green Slip. Hate to get a one day then see the junior guy get a four day.

In some categories we are short enough that a guy can be picky about his Green Slip flying. I know some who are only interested in 2+ days, or certain cities.


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