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Wait until Monday, call the Chief Pilot support center, fax them the summons, they will let you out of all the reserve days you need to be on jury duty, on time. The schedulers are idiots and have zero say in our rules. Most of them don't even Know our rules.
I won't even talk to them when I have an issue, instead, I call MY BOSS, the Chief pilot, let him work it out with those morons in scheduling.
I won't even talk to them when I have an issue, instead, I call MY BOSS, the Chief pilot, let him work it out with those morons in scheduling.
I already got it moved once. At least this time it hit when although on reserve, the company really doesn't need me due to the NYC 717 ramp-up. This is really a better time than any other to get it over with. Most lawyers don't want ex-fighter pilots on the jury anyway; too little sympathy for idiots who sue just because they can, and way too willing to hand out maximum punishments for those who deserve them.
Thanks, that is exactly what I will do.
I already got it moved once. At least this time it hit when although on reserve, the company really doesn't need me due to the NYC 717 ramp-up. This is really a better time than any other to get it over with. Most lawyers don't want ex-fighter pilots on the jury anyway; too little sympathy for idiots who sue just because they can, and way too willing to hand out maximum punishments for those who deserve them.
I already got it moved once. At least this time it hit when although on reserve, the company really doesn't need me due to the NYC 717 ramp-up. This is really a better time than any other to get it over with. Most lawyers don't want ex-fighter pilots on the jury anyway; too little sympathy for idiots who sue just because they can, and way too willing to hand out maximum punishments for those who deserve them.
Not sure if someone already posted it but there is a form on Deltanet for jury duty that you need to fill out. Once complete you just hit submit and it is sent electronically. I would get that done ASAP. Click the index tab and they select Jury. From there you will click on the link tagged pilot leave duty request form and then go from there.
ADMIN -> Leaves -> Legal Duty Leave (Jury Duty) -> Pilot Leave Duty Request Form
You must also scan and email the summons IAW the directions on the DELTANET. Pretty sure I left my fax machine with my bag phone so email it is .
Last edited by Scoop; 01-03-2015 at 08:36 PM. Reason: Administrative cleaning
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TY. For anybody who might someday search this, the path is
ADMIN -> Leaves -> Legal Duty Leave (Jury Duty) -> Pilot Leave Duty Request Form
You must also scan and email the summons IAW the directions on the DELTANET Pretty sure I left my fax machine with my bag phone so email it is .
ADMIN -> Leaves -> Legal Duty Leave (Jury Duty) -> Pilot Leave Duty Request Form
You must also scan and email the summons IAW the directions on the DELTANET Pretty sure I left my fax machine with my bag phone so email it is .
And why am I all of a sudden getting all these "Asian Pretty Ladies" side bar adds??
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Understood that displacement generally sucks from POV of the affected pilot(s), so I'm certainly not cheering the idea--it's just, my (likely flawed) understanding of why procedures for displacement exist is "too many pilots in category X; fix via displacement."
Is that not how displacement works? Is displacement so costly to the company that it's better to be imbalanced & start DH'ing guys around to fill the gaps? An attempt to avoid training requirements [goes to the cost issue, I suppose]? Or is this an attempt by the company to "work with" people?
As usual, I'm sure I'm missing something....
And why am I all of a sudden getting all these "Asian Pretty Ladies" side bar adds??
GF
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Isn't this the situation that normally leads to displacement?
Understood that displacement generally sucks from POV of the affected pilot(s), so I'm certainly not cheering the idea--it's just, my (likely flawed) understanding of why procedures for displacement exist is "too many pilots in category X; fix via displacement."
Is that not how displacement works? Is displacement so costly to the company that it's better to be imbalanced & start DH'ing guys around to fill the gaps? An attempt to avoid training requirements [goes to the cost issue, I suppose]? Or is this an attempt by the company to "work with" people?
As usual, I'm sure I'm missing something....
Understood that displacement generally sucks from POV of the affected pilot(s), so I'm certainly not cheering the idea--it's just, my (likely flawed) understanding of why procedures for displacement exist is "too many pilots in category X; fix via displacement."
Is that not how displacement works? Is displacement so costly to the company that it's better to be imbalanced & start DH'ing guys around to fill the gaps? An attempt to avoid training requirements [goes to the cost issue, I suppose]? Or is this an attempt by the company to "work with" people?
As usual, I'm sure I'm missing something....
Those are just three reasons off the top of my head. I'm sure there are many more.
Denny
I think they have a "bring your own machine gun day". I want to be there when someone brings his own mini gun.
They start with a dog drive...ahhh hunting in the south.
The acquarium in Chattanooga is pretty nice. I think they let you fish there with dynamite occasionally.
With all the big box sporting goods stores popping up in the Atlanta area, it ought to drive the pallet price of 7.62 down a little. Competitiveness and all.
Kidding, seriously!
Okay, there's a little truth in everything.
They start with a dog drive...ahhh hunting in the south.
The acquarium in Chattanooga is pretty nice. I think they let you fish there with dynamite occasionally.
With all the big box sporting goods stores popping up in the Atlanta area, it ought to drive the pallet price of 7.62 down a little. Competitiveness and all.
Kidding, seriously!
Okay, there's a little truth in everything.
One day someone is going to drop a car battery into the Georgia Aquarium.
That big cat fish is going to be yummy.
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Isn't this the situation that normally leads to displacement?
Understood that displacement generally sucks from POV of the affected pilot(s), so I'm certainly not cheering the idea--it's just, my (likely flawed) understanding of why procedures for displacement exist is "too many pilots in category X; fix via displacement."
Is that not how displacement works? Is displacement so costly to the company that it's better to be imbalanced & start DH'ing guys around to fill the gaps? An attempt to avoid training requirements [goes to the cost issue, I suppose]? Or is this an attempt by the company to "work with" people?
As usual, I'm sure I'm missing something....
Understood that displacement generally sucks from POV of the affected pilot(s), so I'm certainly not cheering the idea--it's just, my (likely flawed) understanding of why procedures for displacement exist is "too many pilots in category X; fix via displacement."
Is that not how displacement works? Is displacement so costly to the company that it's better to be imbalanced & start DH'ing guys around to fill the gaps? An attempt to avoid training requirements [goes to the cost issue, I suppose]? Or is this an attempt by the company to "work with" people?
As usual, I'm sure I'm missing something....
Well look no further than what they did to right size the 747 category. They offered 50 early outs, with advanced pay, rather than suffer the cascading training events that displacing 50 senior pilots would cause.
On the other fleets, they hope the surplus pilots will bid up to something else, before they have to displace them, for all the reasons Denny mentioned above.
Every displacement causes them to be liable for a paid move, training that pilot then more training and possibly more displacements, if those displaced guys displace others, etc. They would MUCH rather have surplus pilots bid up to fill the next A/E, or bid to another base, and simply not backfill those positions.
Look at the ATL 777. They -hope- some DTW 777 pilots will bid it, and save them the expense of displacing them.
The bottom 10 747 Capts. are 400 numbers junior to the bottom 777 Capts, so those displaced off the 747 won't be able to hold the 777, and will have to go to the A330 or 765, but some of the more senior 765 and A330 guys might bid those 25 777 slots and make room for the 10 displaced 747 guys, so hopefully there won't be a lot of cascading displacements.
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