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Old 01-03-2015 | 02:37 PM
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I received a summons today for jury duty. I called scheduling (pilot support center closed) and they weren't terribly helpful -- the scheduler told me I would get the day of the summons off and that is it (reserve this month). As a commuter, there is no way I could stay in NYC until midnight and then make an 8am summons in San Antonio the following day but the scheduler didn't really care. I plan to call the PSC tomorrow and hopefully talk to somebody with both the authority to help and a little bit of common sense who will recognize the impossible situation scheduling is trying to put me in. I've read the PWA regarding legal duty (page 13-3 line 27); however, I'd like to hear from anybody else who had this happen while on reserve and see what it is reasonable to request/expect.

The fines for missing jury duty in San Antonio run from $100 to $1000 which I'd rather not subject myself to. Would it be reasonable to ask for either a positive space ticket home the night prior, or the day off prior to my summons to allow me the maximum number of chances to commute home? My jury duty begins on a Wednesday, no idea how long it will last -- would it be reasonable to ask for Tues-Fri as unscheduled legal duty and then update the PSC as the situation dictates? I'm not trying to game the system, just trying to figure out what would be considered the norm so I don't make a fool of myself and ask for something that my chief pilot would consider unreasonable. Not sure if it matters, but for the time in question, the reserve required is only 1, and the number available ranges from 10-13.

Thanks!
Old 01-03-2015 | 02:51 PM
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WHEREAS ALPA has been unable or unwilling to translate the company's success into comparable gains for Delta pilots;

WHEREAS ALPA leadership is on the record as being utterly uninterested in making meaningful gains on Delta pilots' next CBA and, in fact, are more concerned with regional pilots' compensation;

WHEREAS "Constructive Engagement" has proven to be a one-way street that disproportionally favors the company;

WHEREAS Delta pilots are the de facto negotiators for every other employee group, and must bear the associated costs in the form of unwritten "me too" bargaining;

WHEREAS Delta flight attendants have gained far more with the threat of a union than they ever could if they we're actually represented by a union;

BE IT RESOLVED that the Delta Air Line Pilots Association hereby disbands; Delta pilots are no longer members of ALPA; dues will no longer be provided; and Delta pilots will use the threat of an in-house union to negotiate the most favorable terms possible.


Adios to D/ALPA bloated power mangers, fat cats, conflicts of interest, and ineffective, self-serving unelected bureaucrats.

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Old 01-03-2015 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
So we can shoot the animals a the wold safari at Pine Mountain? Freaking awesome. It'll be more fun than that day Satchip took down the deer at the petting zoo in Sylacauga.
I think they have a "bring your own machine gun day". I want to be there when someone brings his own mini gun.

They start with a dog drive...ahhh hunting in the south.

The acquarium in Chattanooga is pretty nice. I think they let you fish there with dynamite occasionally.

With all the big box sporting goods stores popping up in the Atlanta area, it ought to drive the pallet price of 7.62 down a little. Competitiveness and all.




Kidding, seriously!




Okay, there's a little truth in everything.
Old 01-03-2015 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
The way I read the memo is there are enough 737A's system wide but they are not in the right bases. If one bids out of SLC or CVG, that position will now go to SEA to whomever can hold it. It doesn't matter what the pilot who's bidding out of the category goes to, just that they are bidding out is all that is needed.

Denny
I read it that way, too. I think it generates an extra position, even if the pilot is awarded SEA 737, which is cool for SEA.

Sounds to me like the positions they have announced as "contingent" appear to be positions they will backfill, just to another base:

I think the winners in this AE are:
1.) ATL
2.) NYC
3.) SEA
Old 01-03-2015 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
I think they have a "bring your own machine gun day". They start with a dog drive...ahhh hunting in the south.
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I thought that was only for kids under 6?
Old 01-03-2015 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeF16
I received a summons today for jury duty. I called scheduling (pilot support center closed) and they weren't terribly helpful -- the scheduler told me I would get the day of the summons off and that is it (reserve this month). As a commuter, there is no way I could stay in NYC until midnight and then make an 8am summons in San Antonio the following day but the scheduler didn't really care. I plan to call the PSC tomorrow and hopefully talk to somebody with both the authority to help and a little bit of common sense who will recognize the impossible situation scheduling is trying to put me in. I've read the PWA regarding legal duty (page 13-3 line 27); however, I'd like to hear from anybody else who had this happen while on reserve and see what it is reasonable to request/expect.

The fines for missing jury duty in San Antonio run from $100 to $1000 which I'd rather not subject myself to. Would it be reasonable to ask for either a positive space ticket home the night prior, or the day off prior to my summons to allow me the maximum number of chances to commute home? My jury duty begins on a Wednesday, no idea how long it will last -- would it be reasonable to ask for Tues-Fri as unscheduled legal duty and then update the PSC as the situation dictates? I'm not trying to game the system, just trying to figure out what would be considered the norm so I don't make a fool of myself and ask for something that my chief pilot would consider unreasonable. Not sure if it matters, but for the time in question, the reserve required is only 1, and the number available ranges from 10-13.

Thanks!
Wait until Monday, call the Chief Pilot support center, fax them the summons, they will let you out of all the reserve days you need to be on jury duty, on time. The schedulers are idiots and have zero say in our rules. Most of them don't even Know our rules.

I won't even talk to them when I have an issue, instead, I call MY BOSS, the Chief pilot, let him work it out with those morons in scheduling.
Old 01-03-2015 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeF16
I received a summons today for jury duty. I called scheduling (pilot support center closed) and they weren't terribly helpful -- the scheduler told me I would get the day of the summons off and that is it (reserve this month). As a commuter, there is no way I could stay in NYC until midnight and then make an 8am summons in San Antonio the following day but the scheduler didn't really care. I plan to call the PSC tomorrow and hopefully talk to somebody with both the authority to help and a little bit of common sense who will recognize the impossible situation scheduling is trying to put me in. I've read the PWA regarding legal duty (page 13-3 line 27); however, I'd like to hear from anybody else who had this happen while on reserve and see what it is reasonable to request/expect.

The fines for missing jury duty in San Antonio run from $100 to $1000 which I'd rather not subject myself to. Would it be reasonable to ask for either a positive space ticket home the night prior, or the day off prior to my summons to allow me the maximum number of chances to commute home? My jury duty begins on a Wednesday, no idea how long it will last -- would it be reasonable to ask for Tues-Fri as unscheduled legal duty and then update the PSC as the situation dictates? I'm not trying to game the system, just trying to figure out what would be considered the norm so I don't make a fool of myself and ask for something that my chief pilot would consider unreasonable. Not sure if it matters, but for the time in question, the reserve required is only 1, and the number available ranges from 10-13.

Thanks!
On a side note you can call the court offices and ask to have your juror duty days moved. I'm not sure how your state is, but they were more than willing to adjust my assigned jury duty days.

Each state is different though.
Old 01-03-2015 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Wait until Monday, call the Chief Pilot support center, fax them the summons, they will let you out of all the reserve days you need to be on jury duty, on time. The schedulers are idiots and have zero say in our rules. Most of them don't even Know our rules.

I won't even talk to them when I have an issue, instead, I call MY BOSS, the Chief pilot, let him work it out with those morons in scheduling.
Thanks, that is exactly what I will do.

Originally Posted by DeadHead
On a side note you can call the court offices and ask to have your juror duty days moved. I'm not sure how your state is, but they were more than willing to adjust my assigned jury duty days.

Each state is different though.
I already got it moved once. At least this time it hit when although on reserve, the company really doesn't need me due to the NYC 717 ramp-up. This is really a better time than any other to get it over with. Most lawyers don't want ex-fighter pilots on the jury anyway; too little sympathy for idiots who sue just because they can, and way too willing to hand out maximum punishments for those who deserve them.
Old 01-03-2015 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeF16
Thanks, that is exactly what I will do.



I already got it moved once. At least this time it hit when although on reserve, the company really doesn't need me due to the NYC 717 ramp-up. This is really a better time than any other to get it over with. Most lawyers don't want ex-fighter pilots on the jury anyway; too little sympathy for idiots who sue just because they can, and way too willing to hand out maximum punishments for those who deserve them.
Not sure if someone already posted it but there is a form on Deltanet for jury duty that you need to fill out. Once complete you just hit submit and it is sent electronically. I would get that done ASAP. Click the index tab and they select Jury. From there you will click on the link tagged pilot leave duty request form and then go from there.
Old 01-03-2015 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Delta1067
Not sure if someone already posted it but there is a form on Deltanet for jury duty that you need to fill out. Once complete you just hit submit and it is sent electronically. I would get that done ASAP. Click the index tab and they select Jury. From there you will click on the link tagged pilot leave duty request form and then go from there.
TY. For anybody who might someday search this, the path is

ADMIN -> Leaves -> Legal Duty Leave (Jury Duty) -> Pilot Leave Duty Request Form

You must also scan and email the summons IAW the directions on the DELTANET. Pretty sure I left my fax machine with my bag phone so email it is .

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