Your saying American paid almost 60 cents per gallon more then Delta and almost every airline in 2014 yet this year is getting all its fuel for the wholesale spot price? Amazing improvements!
What you are trying to compare is retail price for last year verses wholesale price this year. Apples to oranges. Delta paid it looks like about 2.67 a gallon last year. American was probably within pennies of that number. Wholesale Spot price undelivered at the refinery is 1.42 today. Call it 1.70 at the airport. That's a really nice savings but nothing like you report.
What is probably far more significant is that Delta chose to conserve capital by not buying the newest most efficient aircraft. United and American went the other way and have large capital expenditures coming their way that they hoped to fund with fuel savings. That strategy is not looking good once Delta gets past all its hedges next year.

There's one aspect of this issue that hasn't been discussed.

Its abundantly clear that management wants to end or substantially reduce our profit sharing. Its also becoming pretty clear that DALPA is going to help them do that.
Ask yourself why.
The answer has to be that even though its "variable" and "at risk" and all that; in future years it is potentially going to be huge. Obviously management doesn't want to write those checks.

But probably even more significant in their thinking => when they gave us profit sharing, without thinking too much about it they instinctively followed their usual pattern and also promised it to the non-contract employees. When you total all those checks, its a lot more than ours. Now management is stuck. They can't take it back from just them or they will have union cards flying in every work group the next day.

That may be what this is about.

I understand. And I'm willing to help.
I trust DALPA understands that giving up profit sharing saves management a lot more than just our profit sharing.
So Mr. Anderson, what are you willing to give up for that?

I've sat and read your blather for a while now, and why nobody calls you on it is puzzling.
That's not entirely true, but you already knew that!;)
That 94 hour based on what the pilot can hold is for FULL TIME ALPA volunteers. Reps don't get that. Only candidates that are on the MEC. Please don't spread half truths, it only dilutes what you are trying to say and makes you sound silly.

Again, you're not telling the whole truth.
Why don't you enlighten the masses with your all knowing splendor and tell us who EXACTLY gets the 94 hr plus $1000 stipend?
And as to your second point, you're not only being dishonest but you're being arrogant!


Many of us don't have your pompous attitude, thus don't respect the half truth you're telling !
Please stop it. We all want a better contract. Your name calling and demeanor aren't going to get it.

Delta pilots are not at the top of the industry. Our "union's" own contract comparison clearly showed that. In our entire contract, Delta pilots lead the industry in two pay categories...and nowhere else. Other airlines lead the industry in every other section, and every other pay category except two.

Carl

I will be looking for improvements in many areas, not funded by givebacks in other areas, for the future TA to be considered anything but a non-starter. Pay is certainly important to me, but as a whole it needs a lot of improvement.

Zero chance that will be responded to except by insults.

Carl

Bottom line to all of this is very simple. Reducing profit sharing is a concession. Period. Our "union" can claim that a profit sharing reduction isn't a concession because they'll monetize it with increased pay rates. But why would management ever consider that? They would simply keep the profit sharing the same and fight us hard on rates...unless they're predicting profits that will greatly increase. Then monetizing profit sharing based on today's profits makes sense.

The company clearly want it, and have hired DALPA to make their case to us...right before they do it anyway.

Carl

Carl,

Didn't you know ALPA EF&A was the best in the world? That's why the company uses them too.;).

You know, the guys that modeled the $$$ for C12...just before the greatest profits in airline history.

At least we can rest easy knowing those guys work for US!

I think you just proved his point.

It will be rather fascinating to watch the company tout the PS to win FAs no votes against the IAM while we are simultaneously sold on ending variable/at risk/bonus pay for both of us all while we enjoy cashing said checks.

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I'd like to hear what % goal one proponent of ending at risk pay has for selling profit sharing- 15% + raise?