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Old 02-17-2015 | 06:28 PM
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So I noticed spirit just added 9 cities out of Atlanta today. Previously they have also expanded msp and Dtw. I know that they are targeting passengers who wouldn't fly delta anyways but at what point does Delta start defending their turf a little more against these guys or are they already and i just don't know? They are never going to touch atl but what about deltas other bases, especially o/d traffic out of msp and Dtw to vacation destinations?
Old 02-17-2015 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by cni187
What's the source?
Recent JS-er was a TNG guy who just came out of a meeting with RA (tng meeting with all the ATL folks) RA said the 717 shuttle would be out of DTW and would just RON on the West coast. That was 2 weeks ago.
Old 02-17-2015 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
There are rumors we have purchased a few more 717s. I guess from two different airlines.

And there are rumors that everyone in Atlanta will now be going through security, no more bypassing via the busses or the cheese grater. Heard that from the different people.

I was told SAS and some Turkmenistan airline?!?! (watch out for those giants......)<- old school Borat/Ali-G fans will get that.

http://worldairlinenews.com/2014/12/...-92-4-million/
Old 02-17-2015 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
If this situation gets too extreme then we will have grounds for a grievance.
There's a long history of case law defining what counts as "hours at work".
When you arrive at the premises you are at work.

We need sign-in computers in the bus sheds.
And a 90 minute report time.

Dealing with required TSA procedures should unquestionably be included as part of our duty period.
If you look at the history of labor contracts and the definition of "working conditions" and "hours worked"; this is a textbook example of work related duties that should be on the company's time and not the employee's.
Agreed. However, isn't this what the MSP types have been doing for years?
Old 02-17-2015 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
The best solution is to allow me to park my car underneath terminal C.
I guess I'll need to request F.
Old 02-18-2015 | 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Are you sure you work here?? .
They can't fix this glitch that easily.
Old 02-18-2015 | 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by PinnacleFO
So I noticed spirit just added 9 cities out of Atlanta today. Previously they have also expanded msp and Dtw. I know that they are targeting passengers who wouldn't fly delta anyways but at what point does Delta start defending their turf a little more against these guys or are they already and i just don't know? They are never going to touch atl but what about deltas other bases, especially o/d traffic out of msp and Dtw to vacation destinations?
Delta has already seen it coming - they were experiementing with fares similar to Spirit with a corresponding reduction in benefits (no seat assignment, no upgrades, etc) last year and were actually only out of DTW to, you guessed it, Spirit destinations.

Part of the service re-branding is Basic Economy: Basic Economy | Delta Air Lines
Old 02-18-2015 | 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
Delta has already seen it coming - they were experiementing with fares similar to Spirit with a corresponding reduction in benefits (no seat assignment, no upgrades, etc) last year and were actually only out of DTW to, you guessed it, Spirit destinations.

Part of the service re-branding is Basic Economy: Basic Economy | Delta Air Lines
I'm curious what the general consensus is with the emergence of your basic fare. Obviously the intention is to better compete with our customers but realistically does this create another layer of service that will confuse and upset your passengers? Delta is a premium airline and even with being upfront about the sole business model and a la carte service, many still don't understand it. Will the basic seats have any designation in the cabin or will it just be the last X number of rows?
Old 02-18-2015 | 05:09 AM
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Timeline of Mergers

Thought that was a neat graphic. I linked it because I didn't want to get yelled at for posting an oversized picture.
Old 02-18-2015 | 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunga Galunga
I'm curious what the general consensus is with the emergence of your basic fare. Obviously the intention is to better compete with our customers but realistically does this create another layer of service that will confuse and upset your passengers? Delta is a premium airline and even with being upfront about the sole business model and a la carte service, many still don't understand it. Will the basic seats have any designation in the cabin or will it just be the last X number of rows?
The way I understand it, basic seats will not have any seat assignment until the day of travel. So essentially, they will be all the leftover middle seats nobody else wants.
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