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03-21-2015 | 02:01 PM
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03-21-2015 | 02:05 PM
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03-21-2015 | 02:29 PM
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Ground duties from sign in to block out and block in to release or rest. It's for the negotiators to come up with it and if agreed the tekkies to program it. I've been hearing this concept since I've been hired in '10. Would be nice to see it, as well as flight pay from door close to door open.
03-21-2015 | 02:35 PM
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We have done fairly well in reducing taxi times which might make a good negotiation argument for this. Had we continued to "drag our feet" so to speak I wouldn't think we would have much argument here. If I were negotiating I would definitely bring this fact up.
03-21-2015 | 02:50 PM
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I speak in jest. I know how it goes with GSs. BTW, I am junior. Both the WS and YS were senior to me, and I have seen a lot of GS#1 go out and was hoping to get mine. I would think one would have the situational awareness to wait to WS or YS when GS are NOT going to be given out, i.e. the trip will go to someone on reserve.
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03-21-2015 | 03:28 PM
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I speak in jest. I know how it goes with GSs. BTW, I am junior. Both the WS and YS were senior to me, and I have seen a lot of GS#1 go out and was hoping to get mine. I would think one would have the situational awareness to wait to WS or YS when GS are NOT going to be given out, i.e. the trip will go to someone on reserve.
03-21-2015 | 03:28 PM
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I like the idea of "ground pay." It could work like this:
From the time we sign in until the door closes...ground pay.
From block in to closing the hotel room door...ground pay. They can set up a menu option on the VRU...or create an app...or we send a text...when we get to the hotel room to stop the clock on ground pay.
The only question is...how much is "ground pay?" Half the hourly rate? Quarter rate? $25/hr? As long as it's something to disincentivize waiting at the curb for the van, insanely early van times due to station manager laziness, etc.
Basically, the company can now waste our time as much as they want without penalty. It's time to change that. Our time is far more valuable than Delta treats it. When we're doing anything company-related on a trip, we must be on the clock.
From the time we sign in until the door closes...ground pay.
From block in to closing the hotel room door...ground pay. They can set up a menu option on the VRU...or create an app...or we send a text...when we get to the hotel room to stop the clock on ground pay.
The only question is...how much is "ground pay?" Half the hourly rate? Quarter rate? $25/hr? As long as it's something to disincentivize waiting at the curb for the van, insanely early van times due to station manager laziness, etc.
Basically, the company can now waste our time as much as they want without penalty. It's time to change that. Our time is far more valuable than Delta treats it. When we're doing anything company-related on a trip, we must be on the clock.
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03-21-2015 | 03:55 PM
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I speak in jest. I know how it goes with GSs. BTW, I am junior. Both the WS and YS were senior to me, and I have seen a lot of GS#1 go out and was hoping to get mine. I would think one would have the situational awareness to wait to WS or YS when GS are NOT going to be given out, i.e. the trip will go to someone on reserve.
03-21-2015 | 04:05 PM
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I like the idea of "ground pay." It could work like this:
From the time we sign in until the door closes...ground pay.
From block in to closing the hotel room door...ground pay. They can set up a menu option on the VRU...or create an app...or we send a text...when we get to the hotel room to stop the clock on ground pay.
The only question is...how much is "ground pay?" Half the hourly rate? Quarter rate? $25/hr? As long as it's something to disincentivize waiting at the curb for the van, insanely early van times due to station manager laziness, etc.
Basically, the company can now waste our time as much as they want without penalty. It's time to change that. Our time is far more valuable than Delta treats it. When we're doing anything company-related on a trip, we must be on the clock.
From the time we sign in until the door closes...ground pay.
From block in to closing the hotel room door...ground pay. They can set up a menu option on the VRU...or create an app...or we send a text...when we get to the hotel room to stop the clock on ground pay.
The only question is...how much is "ground pay?" Half the hourly rate? Quarter rate? $25/hr? As long as it's something to disincentivize waiting at the curb for the van, insanely early van times due to station manager laziness, etc.
Basically, the company can now waste our time as much as they want without penalty. It's time to change that. Our time is far more valuable than Delta treats it. When we're doing anything company-related on a trip, we must be on the clock.
03-21-2015 | 04:18 PM
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My tone is meant to light and half in jest. I know we live in a world where we as pilots for the most part are self serving. No one is looking our for you but you. I don't expect anyone to check reserve coverage for my benefit, but it would just be nice to get a GS everyone once in a while. It can be frustrating to see a possible GS go out on a WS, but that's the game. But it's also the game if I get 1, maybe you can get 2. In the end, if ifs and buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a Merry Xmas!
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