Originally Posted by hockeypilot44

Yes. He flew 3 of the first 4. I figured he would split the last turn since he split the first turn. I was wrong. There's also the guy that decideds to go by 2's from the beginning when there's 10 legs for the trip. Guy ends up flying 6 of 10. Then there's the guy with the out and back greenslip with 2 different first officers who flies both legs. I know this because the other first officer is a friend of mine. These things have each happened to me in the past year all on the -88. It's not a huge deal as we get plenty of legs, but is it really that hard to split the legs 50/50? I believe the captain should get the extra leg if it's an odd number, but to steal a first officer's leg when there's an even number of legs is disrespectful if you ask me. It's a petty high school move. FWIW, I would never say anything in the cockpit about this. I just couldn't resist adding my 2 cents about "that guy."

Originally Posted by duder

Bragging he got post # 180,000 on the greatest forum of all time on the PA.....check.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid

You know, I used to see that all of the time on the 88. It's an 88 thing. It got the point that a guy who said want to go 1-2-2 would have be giving him a blank stare because I didn't know what to say to normalcy. When I started flying E120s years ago the Captain did first turn to set the tone and then 2-2-2 so everyone either flew in or out of an outstation for proficiency. ER not withstanding the 717 is the same 90% of the time.

But the 88...

It's really not about the landings but rather one of those "I am pretty laid back" telltale signs of what's to come on that trip and without fail it's accurate. Actually it's probably a more accurate that indication that you're flying with THAT GUY.

Really props, RJs, Douglas jets doing the out and back stuff is the only place this really comes up.

Originally Posted by orvil

I'm going to step up and defend some of the times the landings don't seem like a fair split. I'm happy to be a commander of the radio. I've had plenty of legs in my time.

But, there are times that I'm not going to let the FO take the leg. It's a pretty short list. If he's right out of the schoolhouse, I'll take the first leg. If it's a 900, I'm going to take it until I assess your flying skills. I have a healthy fear of tail strikes. I'd rather hurt your feelings than do a carpet dance over a tail strike. I'll make it up to you later in the trip.

I know landing in the same place is boring. I try to mix it up. I do try to make sure the landings are even.

For you FO's, I can't wait until you make Captain, you will discover that not all of the *******s are in the left seat. I'm just sorry I can't put them on a do not fly with list. Talk about a miserable trip.

Now, let's talk about this long sleeve shirt thing everyone's wrapped around. What is your problem? You need to let it go.

Originally Posted by Timbo

So...how do you 'assess his flying skills' if you don't let him fly? He passed his sim check, he passed his IOE, but now you have to decide if he's good enough?

When I was flying domestic, I always gave the F/O's as many legs as they wanted, pays the same, just don't wake me up!

Now that I'm doing ULR flying, I only take one leg per month, just to keep from having to commute into ATL for bounces on my days off.

Originally Posted by Timbo

As Capt. I always preferred the F/O to fly the first leg, so I could go talk to the F/A's, get my coffee, do the walk around, stretch out and relax, while Junior does all the mundane crap like loading the box. That way I don't have to rush to do all of the above...AND load the box. It just seemed to go smoother if we divide up the work, vs. me trying to do it all on the first leg.

Also, I can ass-ess his flying skills on the first leg, so I'll know if I'm going to be able to sleep on the next 3 legs...

Originally Posted by forgot to bid

One time in my Captain life I let the FO take the first leg because it was EWR-MSP and he lived in MSP and it was a big deal for him. He was a new hire.

That was a colossal mistake. Had I taken it I might have picked up on some deficiencies prior to that non existent flare.

Then again I let a new hire take it on his first leg out on his first trip. I don't remember why I did that but luckily for me that guy rocked.

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Originally Posted by Timbo

You think he was going to learn to flare by watching you flare first? He was going to pound it in on his leg regardless of it being the first or second leg. I'd rather find out what I'm dealing with asap. Maybe I've just been very lucky, but I have never had a problem with an F/O not knowing how to fly. I thought that was part of the prerequisite of getting the job.

I did see two 777 Capt.s try to kill me though, one was a LCA 'practicing' an LNAV approach, nearly ended up like Asiana in SFO! The other was demonstrating a flaps 25 landing (we never do those, but he decided he'd try one) and never flared. It was by far the hardest landing I've ever seen, in any airplane.

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