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Old 03-03-2015 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by thefoxsays
Basiclly, from the day you call in SK, until well is counted as sick days.

Not just the actual days of work missed.

Example.

You call in sick the day before a four day trip. (Sunday)
The trip, 4 days, is Mon-Thur.

You forget or don't call in well until the following Sunday. (Regardless of when really well).

So, instead of counting that as one sick call at four days missed (lost) work, the company counts it as 7 days out sick.

That's the short of it.... So when DAL says we use more sick time, it's flawed. I forgot to call in well because it's a new system for me. Now my missed work log (whatever it's called, either in iCrew or PAS) shows me out 12 days even though I only was out for a 3 day trip. So to the company it looks like I used 4 times the amount of SK I actually used.
It'll be interesting to see what you find out. To this point, I had been thinking that when someone claimed that our sick leave use was x% higher than our peers at other airlines, that this was directly related to how much our sick time was costing the company ($ value). If that were true (and I don't know that it is), the number of days for the occurrence would be irrelevant because it would still be costing the same since we are only paid sick leave for work missed. Missing off days doesn't increase the cost in a way I can think of.

We track the calendar days missed because that is what the contract requires for one of the verification components. They have to track that to comply. I don't know if they also track it as a means of comparison.
Old 03-03-2015 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
Ok.

So where is the information available?
I would suggest following the MEC Facebook Feed, MEC Twitter Feed, or check your email from the MEC update at the end of each day.... you might be surprised how much information is out there.
Old 03-03-2015 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Hillbilly
To this point, I had been thinking that when someone claimed that our sick leave use was x% higher than our peers at other airlines, that this was directly related to how much our sick time was costing the company ($ value). If that were true (and I don't know that it is), the number of days for the occurrence would be irrelevant because it would still be costing the same since we are only paid sick leave for work missed. Missing off days doesn't increase the cost in a way I can think of.
I think you're on to it. At an LEC meeting a couple of months ago, my reps (along with the chief pilot in attendance) told us that the measurement used was the percentage of total credit hours that were paid out as sick leave.

Originally Posted by Hillbilly
We track the calendar days missed because that is what the contract requires for one of the verification components. They have to track that to comply. I don't know if they also track it as a means of comparison.
There are at least 5 different ways to track sick leave. Number of times pilots call schedules; number of total days (working or not); block hours paid as sick; Reserve utilization; percentage of total credit paid as sick.

Regardless of how they choose to measure it, they have chosen to make a big deal about it. I think that's poor prioritization on Delta's part.
Old 03-03-2015 | 10:42 AM
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Anybody know what a two day CQ pays?
Old 03-03-2015 | 10:51 AM
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I've found this forum to be great for answering questions. I've asked a couple about a 365 AE but haven't gotten responses. I'm beginning to think that perhaps I'm asking questions that people might not know the answers to. Has it been a really long time since the company had a 365 day stipulation in the AE (or is this possibly the 1st one since coming out of bankruptcy)?

Thanks
Old 03-03-2015 | 11:01 AM
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My car broke down, so my wife drops me off and picks me up at the terminal (ATL). (we live close). KCM on the north side of security. It doesn't save me any time, but it's nicer than riding the bus to and from employee parking.

Plus, no more embarrassing 'Honey, I'm home early... hey, who's the guy in the shower with the tattoos?'
Old 03-03-2015 | 11:06 AM
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Mike,

I looked at your question, and think you're right. Nobody is answering because they don't know. At first I thought they would convert you first, but now that you mention it, maybe it is possible someone senior to you could bypass you even if they were on a subsequent award.

I'd float that by the manager of crew resources.

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Old 03-03-2015 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by casual observer
Mike,

What do you mean by '365 day caveat' on the AE?
They have 365 days to transition instead of the usual 6 months.
Old 03-03-2015 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by casual observer
Mike,

I looked at your question, and think you're right. Nobody is answering because they don't know. At first I thought they would convert you first, but now that you mention it, maybe it is possible someone senior to you could bypass you even if they were on a subsequent award.

I'd float that by the manager of crew resources.
Thanks for looking back and checking.

What about somebody junior to me? Also, how would I go about contacting the manager of crew resources? Sounds like somebody important who wouldn't want to talk to me .
Old 03-03-2015 | 11:21 AM
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Crew resources numbers: Bill Gable 404-715-1125 or Bob Thomas 404-715-1088.

I get what you are saying now. Sorry couldn't be of more help.
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