Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
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I say that in jest. I think our union does a fairly good job of communicating, but your comment above goes against the idea of aspiring for effective communication with the pilot group..
You will have to find it from there. (I believe its a left down the hall, then a right at the 1st hall?) Been a while since I've been down there.
Speaking of the bus... 
It's so funny how, as an ATL pilot, you spend all week flying airliners around and then you go to get on the bus at a shift change and it's welcome back to middle school. Between rampers, FAs, red coats, gate agents, ramp controllers, ops people, sometimes the bus just makes you lose faith in your fellow coworker.
I was hoping, still hoping, that the end result of the ATL security changes that those buses just run from the parking lot to the terminal and we clear security there and then catch the bus back from there. Outside of going to terminal E which runs a bus every 2 minutes, it would be a heck of a lot quicker I bet. I broke a personal record the other day, got to the shed at 20:02, got to the crew room in A at 20:45. I think going straight to the terminal would be faster.
BTW, was reading the USA Today, they listed a January (I guess this year?) incident of a FAA inspector arrested for carrying a gun in the cockpit of one of our flights? Not to mention the gun smuggling and the fact they said they only check current employees against a terror watch list and not for criminal activity. So you can amass felonies after you're hired just not before. Yeah I think it'd be good if we just go through security.
Federal officials consider screening all airport workers

It's so funny how, as an ATL pilot, you spend all week flying airliners around and then you go to get on the bus at a shift change and it's welcome back to middle school. Between rampers, FAs, red coats, gate agents, ramp controllers, ops people, sometimes the bus just makes you lose faith in your fellow coworker.
I was hoping, still hoping, that the end result of the ATL security changes that those buses just run from the parking lot to the terminal and we clear security there and then catch the bus back from there. Outside of going to terminal E which runs a bus every 2 minutes, it would be a heck of a lot quicker I bet. I broke a personal record the other day, got to the shed at 20:02, got to the crew room in A at 20:45. I think going straight to the terminal would be faster.
BTW, was reading the USA Today, they listed a January (I guess this year?) incident of a FAA inspector arrested for carrying a gun in the cockpit of one of our flights? Not to mention the gun smuggling and the fact they said they only check current employees against a terror watch list and not for criminal activity. So you can amass felonies after you're hired just not before. Yeah I think it'd be good if we just go through security.
Federal officials consider screening all airport workers
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Not just the actual days of work missed.
Example.
You call in sick the day before a four day trip. (Sunday)
The trip, 4 days, is Mon-Thur.
You forget or don't call in well until the following Sunday. (Regardless of when really well).
So, instead of counting that as one sick call at four days missed (lost) work, the company counts it as 7 days out sick.
That's the short of it.... So when DAL says we use more sick time, it's flawed. I forgot to call in well because it's a new system for me. Now my missed work log (whatever it's called, either in iCrew or PAS) shows me out 12 days even though I only was out for a 3 day trip. So to the company it looks like I used 4 times the amount of SK I actually used.
Basiclly, from the day you call in SK, until well is counted as sick days.
Not just the actual days of work missed.
Example.
You call in sick the day before a four day trip. (Sunday)
The trip, 4 days, is Mon-Thur.
You forget or don't call in well until the following Sunday. (Regardless of when really well).
So, instead of counting that as one sick call at four days missed (lost) work, the company counts it as 7 days out sick.
That's the short of it.... So when DAL says we use more sick time, it's flawed. I forgot to call in well because it's a new system for me. Now my missed work log (whatever it's called) shows me out 12 days even though I only was out for a 3 day trip. So to the company it looks like I used 4 times the amount of SK I actually used.
Not just the actual days of work missed.
Example.
You call in sick the day before a four day trip. (Sunday)
The trip, 4 days, is Mon-Thur.
You forget or don't call in well until the following Sunday. (Regardless of when really well).
So, instead of counting that as one sick call at four days missed (lost) work, the company counts it as 7 days out sick.
That's the short of it.... So when DAL says we use more sick time, it's flawed. I forgot to call in well because it's a new system for me. Now my missed work log (whatever it's called) shows me out 12 days even though I only was out for a 3 day trip. So to the company it looks like I used 4 times the amount of SK I actually used.
I'm not so sure about that. If you look at Time Card, Sick Occurences it breaks down the missed work days and the duration you were marked out. Unless you know for a fact that the company is looking at the duration number and not the missed work days number when they make that statement.
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While I'm not 100% positive of it, is why I'm writing the reps.
Why would the company track it those ways, if they weren't going to use that information.
I have a very hard time believing DAL pilots use "a lot" more SK time than our peers. However, if the company uses the "bigger" number, they can skew the info. I'd like to find out the truth. Especially since this seems to be a hot button topic.
Why would the company track it those ways, if they weren't going to use that information.
I have a very hard time believing DAL pilots use "a lot" more SK time than our peers. However, if the company uses the "bigger" number, they can skew the info. I'd like to find out the truth. Especially since this seems to be a hot button topic.
I'm not so sure about that. If you look at Time Card, Sick Occurences it breaks down the missed work days and the duration you were marked out. Unless you know for a fact that the company is looking at the duration number and not the missed work days number when they make that statement.
So they certainly DO look at the total days you were out sick.
From our C20 newsletter:
When is verification required?
Section 14. F. 3 & 4 of the PWA requires a pilot to verify his/ her illness ONLY under the following circumstances:
· When you have been absent on a single sick occurrence 15 or more consecutive calendar days (including days off between trips).
etc
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