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Old 03-01-2015 | 02:41 PM
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Hey guys, I picked up a WS showed up and they keep slipping the departure time. It was a one leg out and next day back worth 10.5. what is my obligation to sit here in the crew room? Also when they can't get me back the next day within 4 hours of scheduled arrival what are my options?

If they cancel the trip what do I get paid? I've been here 5 hours now... hopefully it's not just assignment pay.

If this is the first leg of your trip you have to be airborne with six hours of report. If not airborne you are free to go home with the trip guarantee and no other obligation. I'm looking for the reference for you.
Old 03-01-2015 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirty
Hey guys, I picked up a WS showed up and they keep slipping the departure time. It was a one leg out and next day back worth 10.5. what is my obligation to sit here in the crew room? Also when they can't get me back the next day within 4 hours of scheduled arrival what are my options?

If they cancel the trip what do I get paid? I've been here 5 hours now... hopefully it's not just assignment pay.
The contract says end of calendar day or 4 hours whichever is later. If you're supposed to finish before 8pm, then can reroute you until midnight.
Old 03-01-2015 | 02:45 PM
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Well, one more hour and im home free then!
Old 03-01-2015 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
The contract says end of calendar day or 4 hours whichever is later. If you're supposed to finish before 8pm, then can reroute you until midnight.
Hockey, what stinks about that is that my WS preferences were for a trip to return by 1400. Now they COULD deadhead me home on time but I'm sure they will use me up till midnight and I will miss all my son's game.
Old 03-01-2015 | 02:58 PM
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Dirty,

Look at 23.K.c-d. From what I can tell based on your info 23.k.c applies as long as you contact CS after six hours from report. You should be free to go after the six hours as long as they did not schedule before 5:59. That's how I interpret the language. Good luck
Old 03-01-2015 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SierraWhiskey
If this is the first leg of your trip you have to be airborne with six hours of report. If not airborne you are free to go home with the trip guarantee and no other obligation. I'm looking for the reference for you.
That would be 23k and that would be if his rotation got cancelled. Reading his post it just looks like the departure time gets pushed back not cancelled.
Old 03-01-2015 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirty
Well, one more hour and im home free then!
What SW is quoting is 23K and he is correct if your rotation has been cancelled, however if they are just continually pushing back your departure time they have until your duty day runs out.
Old 03-01-2015 | 03:38 PM
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Hmmmm. Then this really stinks.
Old 03-01-2015 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by OceanCrosser
Jayhawk,

Here is to wishing you a speedy and painless recovery.

Regarding the DPMA questionaire and paper work, it is truly a big PITA. I hate to think what would happen if you were truly disabled and struggling for your life versus a non life threatening albeit disabling injury.

As a user of both the DPMA and a former previous airline's disability program, one was a "one call and it did it all". In other words you made a call to central admin, told them you were going to be long term sick and they would ask you to call when ready to return. Your paycheck came on the same dates as usual, your income stayed the same and you never went "off payroll". I may be wrong.. but I think you continued to build sick leave (can't be sure) while out.

The whole object of either program is to allow a safety net to prevent financial distress if such an injury or illness would prevent you from exercising the privileges of your ATP.

I am glad we have DPMA but I wish it was a little more user friendly. Sorry, but it looks like you need to fill out the paper work!

Get well, stay warm,

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DPMA is just one easy page--just filled it out over the weekend. Temporary Disability (TD) is about 10-13 pages and much more painful. Took me about 2 hours to sort through and make sense of it all. Spoke with both over the phone last week and everyone was very helpful. I don't plan on having the doctor send it in--I will collect after he's done and send it myself to ensure it gets done.

Also spoke with ALPA (contracts and insurance extensions) and both have been very helpful. I run out of sick leave in 2 weeks so will find out how it all works in short order.

ALPA med is also assisting and is fully engaged on getting the FAA paperwork done.
Old 03-01-2015 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by gr8vu
DPMA is just one easy page--just filled it out over the weekend. Temporary Disability (TD) is about 10-13 pages and much more painful. Took me about 2 hours to sort through and make sense of it all. Spoke with both over the phone last week and everyone was very helpful. I don't plan on having the doctor send it in--I will collect after he's done and send it myself to ensure it gets done.

Also spoke with ALPA (contracts and insurance extensions) and both have been very helpful. I run out of sick leave in 2 weeks so will find out how it all works in short order.

ALPA med is also assisting and is fully engaged on getting the FAA paperwork done.
Let me ask a stupid question instead of doing a little reading!!! Is DPMA the plan that takes you out to 6 months and TD the one that gets you to a year? If so, maybe all I need is DPMA. I anticipate coming back just prior to my sick leave expiring but no later than a week or two after it runs out. If that's the case, is DPMA all I need or do I need TD?

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