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Old 02-11-2015, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Big E 757 View Post
I don't think guys will be swapping equipment too much. There will always be guys who will choose QOL over pay rates or bigger cockpits. Plus, spending a month on VA ave in the summer is no ones idea of a good time.

Those that do move up to 7ER or 73N, will just be forcing new hires into more 717s and MD 88 right seats. All of the training spots will be spoken for one way or another, the only difference will be less new hire slots on the 7ER and 73N.
The other thing to keep in mind is that most of the newhire classes last year had a pretty wide variety of equipment to choose from. Only the first couple classes had large numbers of people forced onto the 88. A couple classes after mine had the 7ER going junior! So I think a lot of newhires are already where they wanted to be. Even most of us on Double Ocho are taking a wait and see attitude, I only know a few guys that can't wait to get off of it. I'd consider bidding 7ER as I'd actually be more senior in MSP than on the 88 (!), but I doubt that'll last. And yeah, if I do bid over, it'll prolly be for a conversion date after summer.
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Old 02-11-2015, 10:36 AM
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Looks like they're gonna buy my 5-day maddog trip to train a new FO. Knew there was a reason I liked 5 days.
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Old 02-11-2015, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge View Post
I just walked into Abbots off VA Ave and found out that they are asking $95 + tax per pair of pants. 500 yards up the road M & H is selling pants for $53/pair.

Anyone have any experience with the M&H pants? I went cheapo on my last go-round and bought some lookalikes at Kohl's, but they haven't held up.

I figure I can buy M&H pants almost 2:1 vs Abbots. Are they cheap as well? I don't want to be back at this again until I need to add another inch to the waistline.
A few years ago Abbots opened up a separate line in Costa Rica (I think) for what they sell us. I asked them about it and they claimed it was for reliability reasons. So I asked if the US Navy was having reliability issues and also got the Costa Rica production line. He said no.

IMO they were the best of the 3 for quality when they were off the same line as the Navy uniforms but once they made the switch I saw a definite full letter grade drop in quality.
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Old 02-11-2015, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Roadkill View Post
I used to buy abbots, no longer. Best ive found is by Haggar with the comfort waist... i know, but on a 5 hour flight in that seat, leaning back then scrunching forward to the box, eating etc, sooo comfortable. They hold up 20 times longer than what theu sell at the crewstore too.


Amen to that, Haggar comfort waist is by far the best. Also can machine wash on gentle/cold and hang dry to save $$$$. They are on amazon prime, too
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Old 02-11-2015, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by fartboxflyer View Post
Amen to that, Haggar comfort waist is by far the best. Also can machine wash on gentle/cold and hang dry to save $$$$. They are on amazon prime, too
You guys getting the Navy or the Black?
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Old 02-11-2015, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler View Post
Since the ALPA PAC guys are out in full force spreading disinformation and hurling personal attacks, I'll just reply to all of them so as not to clog the thread:

ALPA PAC is there to support the election of very far left liberal democrats. ALPA is affiliated with the AFL-CIO which is also a very far left political organization. ALPA PAC's challenge has been how to get money from airline pilots (who are predominantly conservative politically) to reshape the legislative branch into a left wing political construct. ALPA PAC has chosen the method of calling their left wing partisan agenda "Pilot Partisan." Now they've taken it a step further with the claim that they're winning the Export/Import Bank and NAI agenda with their "Pilot Partisan" efforts. The truth is that any progress made has only been because labor's interests just happen to align with the interests of airline management. If not for that, this would already be lost like age 60 and the rest.

I fully support anyone in their desire to send money to back their political ideology. Just know that ALPA PAC dollars primarily support the electing of far left liberal democrats. Check for yourself on their list of non-incumbents they send money to. It is overwhelmingly in favor of far left politicians. If that's your desire, then ALPA PAC is for you.

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Carl is incorrect, and willfully so. I won't waste effort trying to change his mind.

To all who read this, do your own due diligence on the ALPA website. ALPA PAC is the fighting the good fight for all of us against the existential threat of our careers--state owned enterprises.

But hey, what would I know...I've only been giving to ALPA PAC for 15 years.
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Old 02-11-2015, 12:35 PM
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C2012, the contract that just keeps giving....

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Old 02-11-2015, 12:39 PM
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The factor that most probably contributes to sick leave abuse is Capped Reserve Days. You're nailed to the trip because if you can't drop it, you cand get someone to pick it off the Swap Board and you've used your APD you're screwed. And the company can very easily track your efforts to get out of the trip before resorting to a sick call. Unfortunately, Sick Calls generate Green Slips and we must like those enough to have our integrity questioned, but on the off chance we're seeking to remedy the practice,

What about if we negotiated an additonal APD to make 2 a year?

How about a Call in Honest to the CP for a drop?

Or hey, how about moving Out of Base White Slip up in priortity over in base reserve like it was in C2K (when sick leave abuse was much lower) so a guy that wants the trip can fly it?
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Old 02-11-2015, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge View Post
I just walked into Abbots off VA Ave and found out that they are asking $95 + tax per pair of pants. 500 yards up the road M & H is selling pants for $53/pair.

Anyone have any experience with the M&H pants? I went cheapo on my last go-round and bought some lookalikes at Kohl's, but they haven't held up.

I figure I can buy M&H pants almost 2:1 vs Abbots. Are they cheap as well? I don't want to be back at this again until I need to add another inch to the waistline.
I've been wearing M&H since Trans States, then TWA and now DAL. I highly prefer them to Abbots which disintegrated within a year of purchase. They are a bit heavier weight which might be uncomfortable for some in the 4000 degree ramp temp in Hotlanta in July, but just about anything will be uncomfortable. I get the heavier weight material and don't know how the lighter weight pants hold up.

Sometimes M&H has specials which can drop the price down a bit as well.
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Old 02-11-2015, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge View Post
I just walked into Abbots off VA Ave and found out that they are asking $95 + tax per pair of pants. 500 yards up the road M & H is selling pants for $53/pair.

Anyone have any experience with the M&H pants? I went cheapo on my last go-round and bought some lookalikes at Kohl's, but they haven't held up.

I figure I can buy M&H pants almost 2:1 vs Abbots. Are they cheap as well? I don't want to be back at this again until I need to add another inch to the waistline.
Used the Abbot pants several years back, did not last more than year....went back to the M&H great quality and durability.
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