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Old 03-29-2015 | 10:29 AM
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IMO the 737 is such a disaster of a cockpit. Loud, 1960s design and very cramped. The 320, 757/767 and 717 are so much better.
As for the SWA fellow a few pages back who showed up here complaining about our jumpstart config--give me a break. Why don't we ask Boeing for 3 cockpit jumpseats-- and a new plane while we're at it. Remember it was SWA who rejected Boeing's offer of a clean sheet replacement of the 737 in the first place !!
Old 03-29-2015 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
Thanks for the reply Scoop! Was asking more in terms of day to day flying, which airplane do people prefer to fly, especially those who've been on both the 73 and 320.
Easy answer, 7ER...unless you are senior to me.
Old 03-29-2015 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
Thanks for the reply Scoop! Was asking more in terms of day to day flying, which airplane do people prefer to fly, especially those who've been on both the 73 and 320.
I prefer the a320. Clean design, pilot friendly, no goofy knobs, switches, levers, etc all over the place. Bag storage is huge, being able to move your seat to something comfortable in cruise is nice, not worry about the CBs behind the FO, two jump seaters fit nicely with plenty of room for everyone and their bags, no crazy shuffle and uncomfortable positions when swapping with a FA or jumpseater to use the LAV.

The side stick is something you get used to, once you learn and actually understand the systems, the Airbus is very nice. It took me a while to get over not have a yoke and have the tactile/visual cue as to what is going on with the controls when the other guy is flying, but when you get to this level in the states, it is much less of a worry than say if someone was in the ME or Asia etc.
Plus...when it comes to meal time, you have a pull out tray and you can cross your legs, move them around, not worry about getting your knee whacked by the yoke, not have a super high speed crazy trim wheel crush your knee, the bus auto trims itself.

The bus does make you more complacent unless you make an effort to turn everything off and actually fly the plane. Even then, no trim and it commands rates, so you just stick it and leave it really.
A better understand of the computer systems is required IMO.

Only going to 39000 is a downside, 410 is useful for weather, but not that big of a deal. Longer legs so less worry of the tail and wingtip strikes like the 737-super.

Id say more passengers and dead headers find the Airbus more comfortable in the back. Except when people don't turn on the yellow electric pump with #1 running...that PTU is annoying back there.
Old 03-29-2015 | 11:27 AM
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No. Not allowed. You have to be back there to supervise them. It's listed in the non rev booklet, look at the top right of travelnet. I think the min age they can travel unsupervised is 13...
My son non revs a lot alone and he is 12. Just need to sign him in as a UM at ticket counter, so why do you have to supervise them in the back if they can non rev on non stops from I think age 6 (ish)
Old 03-29-2015 | 12:25 PM
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I'm 6ft and the 737 was pure torture... one step removed from water boarding! After 1 year on it, I was seriously considering back surgery. Moved to 7er and after 1 month, all my back problems were gone.

From js'ing on the 320, it appears to be the same size cockpit as the 757. So the clear winner, based on the amount of time one spends in "the office".

P.s., A second js in the 73 torture chamber cockpit for 5+hr legs... um, no thanks... wouldn't do that to my worst enemy... well, maybe my worst enemy!
Old 03-29-2015 | 12:32 PM
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The 717 has awesome looking seats. But butt hurt after 45 min.
Old 03-29-2015 | 02:12 PM
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The 717 has the worst seat I've ever sat on. I'm bidding off ASAP because of it.
Old 03-29-2015 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by LivingTheDream
I'm 6ft and the 737 was pure torture... one step removed from water boarding! After 1 year on it, I was seriously considering back surgery. Moved to 7er and after 1 month, all my back problems were gone.

From js'ing on the 320, it appears to be the same size cockpit as the 757. So the clear winner, based on the amount of time one spends in "the office".

P.s., A second js in the 73 torture chamber cockpit for 5+hr legs... um, no thanks... wouldn't do that to my worst enemy... well, maybe my worst enemy!
Wow. That's kind of what I figured. Not being able to recline, no place to stand and stretch, headphones mandatory, low hanging overhead, 5+ hour legs=physical misery. The kind I'd like to avoid, thus the questions. Thanks.
Old 03-29-2015 | 02:30 PM
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Ok, I know I'm coming in from left field, but quite interesting someone created a "Delta and Alaska" thread on here talking about possible merger, but I was in DTW the other day and another Delta crew were talking about a Delta and Alaska merger as well.

Now I know the drill with line pilots speculating and as the statement about opinions and rear ends goes, but what are the likely chances of an Alaska/Delta merger? I'm asking this in all seriousness because I know this would royally screw guys on the outside, like myself, trying to get on for at minimum another year. Of course I'm asking "line pilots" on this forum what "you" think, but some of you post pretty valid stuff and several of us on the "outside" know who you are.

I'm sure some are getting the popcorn ready.
Old 03-29-2015 | 02:38 PM
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Uhhhhhhhhhhh.........Short answer, slim and none.

Longer answer: Now that Delta has started competing with Alaska out of Seattle, there is too much competition for it to be approved without some serious caveats.

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