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FlyZ 04-02-2015 03:04 AM


Originally Posted by Free Bird (Post 1854271)
My bet is that not only will it get rolled into C15, it will be part of the larger Global protections.

Kinda like the pacific deal a year or so back, except global.

I hate to see financial rewards for us with this grievance as we would be "selling out" our jobs. If the flying is 1% off then the company should have to reduce all JV flying by 1% immediately. Something along those lines, non compliance should have specific punitive action associated with it.

Agreed. We - and ALPA - got played like a drum.

Herkflyr 04-02-2015 03:50 AM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 1854266)
No. Only "soft" time. If the DH operates in the REG month you will get paid for it (check your time card for the month in question). Anything that operates on the spill days into a RSV month plus all soft time will offset guarantee.

Soft time = Credit (ie ADG, DPM, 1:2, 1:3.5, etc...)

The best way to think is:

If the credit applies to that day's flying (DH, duty period minimum, duty rig) then it is applicable to the month in which it occurred.

If the credit applies to the trip as a whole (average calendar day guarantee, or trip rig) then it applies to the end of the trip. As others have stated, if the end of the trip is in a reserve month then all that end of trip credit is applied against the reserve guarantee.

Flying Elvis 04-02-2015 05:44 AM

I've got vacation next month and am bidding reserve. If I've got a regular line the previous month with no spill-over trips, can I "orphan" one or two work days at the first day of the month with an X-day block starting immediately afterwards? I'm thinking not, but can't find the language that would prohibit it.

Herkflyr 04-02-2015 06:00 AM


Originally Posted by Flying Elvis (Post 1854597)
I've got vacation next month and am bidding reserve. If I've got a regular line the previous month with no spill-over trips, can I "orphan" one or two work days at the first day of the month with an X-day block starting immediately afterwards? I'm thinking not, but can't find the language that would prohibit it.

PBS Help

This has all the answers you need, especially the PBS Gouge--page 132 specifically, "Reserve Line Construction Rules." It all depends on whether or not you have work days or off days at the end of the previous month. If you have a trip (or on call days if the previous month was also reserve) ending on the last day of the month, then you can "orphan" the days as you said, so long as by doing so you meet the "min days on" criteria.

If you do not, then you cannot do that. The Gouge explains it very well. There is also an Excel spreadsheet on the site, "Reserve Line Simulator" which will actually tell you if your desired reserve schedule is legal or not contractually.

buzzpat 04-02-2015 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1854540)
Sometimes white slips don't go as I had planned them out in my head:

http://boredhumor.com/wp-content/upl.../02/1d5217.gif

The problem with white slips, much like green slips......you gotta fly 'em.

gzsg 04-02-2015 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by Free Bird (Post 1854271)
My bet is that not only will it get rolled into C15, it will be part of the larger Global protections.

Kinda like the pacific deal a year or so back, except global.

I hate to see financial rewards for us with this grievance as we would be "selling out" our jobs. If the flying is 1% off then the company should have to reduce all JV flying by 1% immediately. Something along those lines, non compliance should have specific punitive action associated with it.

How we settle this grievance is the biggest threat to Delta pilots careers. The assault on our international flying will be never ending. Much like the outsourcing of domestic departures to DCI over the past 3 decades.

Rolling the settlement into C2015 would be a historic mistake. As you said, the language must have immediate reductions. As well as immediate penalties.

We should accept nothing less than the best international scope language ever written.

MountainWildMan 04-02-2015 08:26 AM

Does anybody have any information on pilot candidate tiers? Have they dipped in tier 2 yet? If not, any predictions on when tier 1 will be exhausted?

Much appreciated.

BenderRodriguez 04-02-2015 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 1854685)
We should accept nothing less than the best international scope language ever written.

Absolutely.

80ktsClamp 04-02-2015 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1854540)
Sometimes white slips don't go as I had planned them out in my head:

http://boredhumor.com/wp-content/upl.../02/1d5217.gif

That happened to me the other day. I had a WS in for a trip that I needed before I got another swap that undid my need for the WS.

I forgot to delete it, and suffice to say was scrambling for a PD in the 0700 PCS run a few hours after I got the automated phone call notifying me of the "award."

casual observer 04-02-2015 01:15 PM

couple of questions:

how do they determine max pick-up?

Can I only get an RLL if they cannot build me a line within the window. (I am barely senior enough for an RLL)

What is the minimum credit for an RLL award (if there is a minimum).

(okay, three questions)

If it makes a difference, the window for my category in May is 68:30 - 83:30


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