Originally Posted by Klondike Bear (Post 1846683)

Anyone know where this came from?

Establish pilot option to waive 12 hours between rotations

To me this is a consesion for productivity. Any other opinions?

Originally Posted by Big E 757 (Post 1846690)

Now,now...let's all calm down. I'm still as disappointed as the rest about our last TVM sell job on the last contract.

However, getting wrapped around the axle at this point about a contract that just began to think about taking form today is going to give someone an ulcer. The industry is so much stronger and healthier today, than it was 3 years ago that, it would be suicide for ALPA to send us a contract that is not a lot better than 4/8/3/3.

I will be first in line to get rid of ALPA if this contract is as marginal as the last one. But I still wouldn't vote for DPA.

No offense, but after reading the posts from some of those children on the DALPA message boards, they aren't the answer either, but I think if we don't see healthy improvements in this contract, my question will be, "What do we need a union for?"

This isn't directed at you Jerry. I like your posts, for the most part, and we desperately need more guys like you in this association. But let's at least give the guys a chance and support them, until it's time to kick them out of the house and find new friends. (I hope that day doesn't come) I hope they don't disappoint us again.

If the TA they bring us is weak or doesn't meet our expectations, we vote no, and hopefully enough of us vote no to send it back and we go from there. We have several months between here and there though, so it's way, way, way too early to stress about it now. There is nothing we can do except express our opinions to our reps, and wait for something official.


Edit: I just re-read my post and I saw the words hope and hopefully in there....who was it that said "Hope is not and effective strategy."?

Originally Posted by Rudder (Post 1846758)

I am in Hong Kong trying to get back to the US tomorrow and they just pulled nonrevs off of the flight today and so I am curious about the chances tomorrow.

Can we jumpseat on the 330 when they are doing 4 pilot legs? Any 330 types out there know about this route leg and the cargo loads etc. that would necessitate them pulling nonrevs off?

Any info would help, thanx mucho.

Originally Posted by Rudder (Post 1846758)

I am in Hong Kong trying to get back to the US tomorrow and they just pulled nonrevs off of the flight today and so I am curious about the chances tomorrow.

Can we jumpseat on the 330 when they are doing 4 pilot legs? Any 330 types out there know about this route leg and the cargo loads etc. that would necessitate them pulling nonrevs off?

Any info would help, thanx mucho.

Originally Posted by Rudder (Post 1846758)

I am in Hong Kong trying to get back to the US tomorrow and they just pulled nonrevs off of the flight today and so I am curious about the chances tomorrow.

Can we jumpseat on the 330 when they are doing 4 pilot legs? Any 330 types out there know about this route leg and the cargo loads etc. that would necessitate them pulling nonrevs off?

Any info would help, thanx mucho.

Originally Posted by S3toHerk (Post 1846675)

When there are no reserves, why do guys White Slip and Yellow slip?!! My GS are getting screwed up! Blanket Party!

Originally Posted by redship (Post 1846815)

What is ground pay? I see they want to add it to the definitions as work required before and after a flight. Would this be flight pay extended by 1.5 hours every duty period? 1 hr show prior to first flight and .5 hr duty off after last flight.