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UnusualAttitude 04-06-2015 05:12 AM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1856528)
Wife wants to go to Mall of America. Any crew deals at the Crowne MOA that we use? Any other MSP recommendations for those of us who do not consider a Mall worthy of a non-rev flight. :eek:

Thanks Scoop

Call the Courtyard Marriott in Mendota Heights. Ask for the DAL Project Rate. Includes a decent free breakfast and the rooms are clean. Hotel will take you the MOA. You can take the Light Rail directly downtown to Target Field and catch at Twins game. It's a great park. If you want one of the best Juicy Lucy's in town try the Blue Door Pub.

UA

pb4ufly 04-06-2015 05:24 AM


Originally Posted by Jetnfast (Post 1856598)
Hey Scoop,

You know the Rad Blu is a good setup! You and I had good beers here a few weeks back plus its close to all the good eats, etc. I am writing from here as we speak and have another night here tomorrow. You can take the trolley to the Mall from downtown, I think its fairly cheap transit.

Better yet for your wife, the Raddison Blue MOA! Easy transit from MSP (rail or van) and connected to mall. They're also adding a JW to open next year.

Flamer 04-06-2015 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1856656)
I was told as a new hire that it is a willful disregard of the contract to give up a DH seat. We negotiated the seat, the company expects us to sit in the seat, and don't go around violating the contract just to help out the company.

Now, how we apply the contract seems to be an individual thing. Some take a more literal stance than others. You want to give up or concede some part of it, fine. But then, do you really have any ground to complain when another individual decides to do the same, but with another area?

Besides, you may be wanting to help out fellow employees, but you are throwing under the bus all the other pilots who refuse to participate in a contract violation.

That's an interesting way to view it that I had not thought of. Thx.

Jetnfast 04-06-2015 05:43 AM


Originally Posted by crj130driver (Post 1856640)
Check the military leave handbook located under admin and leaves of absence on Deltanet-- a lot of good info in there and it spells out benefits retained based on number of days on Mil Leave. Short answer is that you are still in CASS while on mil leave at Delta so you can Jumpseat as long as you have a current medical.

Great, thank you. I have read the mil handbook and must have missed the fine print. I'll also call the PSC and get it straight from the horses mouth.

Xray678 04-06-2015 06:00 AM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1856656)
I was told as a new hire that it is a willful disregard of the contract to give up a DH seat. We negotiated the seat, the company expects us to sit in the seat, and don't go around violating the contract just to help out the company.

Now, how we apply the contract seems to be an individual thing. Some take a more literal stance than others. You want to give up or concede some part of it, fine. But then, do you really have any ground to complain when another individual decides to do the same, but with another area?

I will use the jumpseat when I see fit. Nothing in the contract says we can't. I don't have a problem with how individuals choose to enforce the contract. The contract is there to protect you, ie the company cannot force you to ride the jumpseat on a DH leg, but it does not say I can't ride the jumpseat. Same with the duty day. The company cannot force me beyond a certain point, but within the FARs, if I choose to go beyond the contractual duty day so I can get home vs being stuck on a layover, then that's what I will do.

If ALPA is that concerned with the contract, take it out of the pilots hands. Put it in writing that a pilot has to comply with every section of the contact, no matter what.

encore 04-06-2015 06:21 AM

No way would I ride the jumpseat during a deadhead.

You're on duty with the company in an aircraft type you're qualified on. The crew busts an altitude and causes a loss of separation. The FAA wants to interview everyone involved. You start getting asked things like "why weren't you wearing a headset as a required crewmember?" "Did you see the altitude they set in the preselect?" "Did you tell the captain that he shouldn't have been using his laptop that the FO admitted he was doing?" "Why did you take the jumpseat and accept additional crewmember responsibility when you've already flown over 8 hours that day?"

Or... you could just be getting paid to be a passenger in a seat that was booked for you and contractually owed to you.

scambo1 04-06-2015 06:28 AM


Originally Posted by encore (Post 1856702)
No way would I ride the jumpseat during a deadhead.

You're on duty with the company in an aircraft type you're qualified on. The crew busts an altitude and causes a loss of separation. The FAA wants to interview everyone involved. You start getting asked things like "why weren't you wearing a headset as a required crewmember?" "Did you see the altitude they set in the preselect?" "Did you tell the captain that he shouldn't have been using his laptop that the FO admitted he was doing?" "Why did you take the jumpseat and accept additional crewmember responsibility when you've already flown over 8 hours that day?"

Or... you could just be getting paid to be a passenger in a seat that was booked for you and contractually owed to you.

Deleted not worth engaging.

qball 04-06-2015 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by UnusualAttitude (Post 1856668)
Call the Courtyard Marriott in Mendota Heights. Ask for the DAL Project Rate. Includes a decent free breakfast and the rooms are clean. Hotel will take you the MOA. You can take the Light Rail directly downtown to Target Field and catch at Twins game. It's a great park. If you want one of the best Juicy Lucy's in town try the Blue Door Pub.

UA

Nice new clean hotel with a good rate, but NOTHING anywhere around it. You have to take the van to the MOA or light rail...or anything else for that matter. Great place for commuting but not sure momma would be happy with the choice 😜

LivingTheDream 04-06-2015 07:07 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1856241)
Happy Easter! He is risen!

Ganesha? :D

hockeypilot44 04-06-2015 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by Xray678 (Post 1856691)
I will use the jumpseat when I see fit. Nothing in the contract says we can't. I don't have a problem with how individuals choose to enforce the contract. The contract is there to protect you, ie the company cannot force you to ride the jumpseat on a DH leg, but it does not say I can't ride the jumpseat. Same with the duty day. The company cannot force me beyond a certain point, but within the FARs, if I choose to go beyond the contractual duty day so I can get home vs being stuck on a layover, then that's what I will do.

If ALPA is that concerned with the contract, take it out of the pilots hands. Put it in writing that a pilot has to comply with every section of the contact, no matter what.

When I am captain, I will flate out tell a deadheader that he needs to take his assigned deadhead seat as the jumpseat is not an option. Unfortunately, I am not a captain. I have been left behind and it ****es me off. Some of you guys are ignorant. Not sure why everyone is so anxious to give up a deadhead seat to sit in the jumpseat especially when we can usually get econ comfort with a 24 hour checkin.


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