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Raging white 04-06-2015 06:21 PM

Is it too late to have the NC put language in our openers that would give half a pilots' rotation guarentee to the pilot that has to put the company headset he left out away for him?

LeineLodge 04-06-2015 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by bluejuice71 (Post 1857063)
When you're a jumpseater you are part of the the crew. I'm not giving up my positive space seat in back to ride in cockpit & be part of the crew. Non-revs that don't get on can take the next flight. If I were non-revving I would never expect a crew member to sit in jumpseat so I or one of my family members could get on.

It's a personal choice. If you don't want to do it then dont.

I will say I've helped, and been helped, in this situation multiple times. If I can pay it forward and help out a fellow commuter or employee's family member then I will absolutely do so. IMO it's just the right thing to do. Getting around is hard enough lately as it is. If we can help one another out, then why not?

sailingfun 04-06-2015 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1856992)
Something about SWA getting a 24% bump... So probably slightly more than 4833. No further details

Anyone else hearing this?

Considering there contract was amendable before us 24% does not sound like a home run. With compounding 28 months into the contract we are at 20.5% with the 1% DC bump.
As far as I know however SW is making little progress and getting little to no help from the NMB. I am sure however that had we driven contract 2012 to the NMB it would have been done a long time ago!

Smokey23 04-06-2015 07:00 PM

Sorry for the bad link. Let's try this again:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/southw...ion=1812178208

Everything you stated re:SWA is true, Sailing.

Carl Spackler 04-06-2015 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1857076)
Considering there contract was amendable before us 24% does not sound like a home run. With compounding 28 months into the contract we are at 20.5% with the 1% DC bump.

And we only had to fund it with reductions in profit sharing, reductions in work rules, 70 more jumbo RJ's and other concessions to ensure our contract was cost neutral to Delta.


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1857076)
As far as I know however SW is making little progress and getting little to no help from the NMB.

You wouldn't know. The people who do know aren't talking.


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1857076)
I am sure however that had we driven contract 2012 to the NMB it would have been done a long time ago!

No need to do that as long as we agree to self-fund our contractual gains with contractual concessions.

Carl

forgot to bid 04-06-2015 07:04 PM

Interesting game. No dog in fight. Enjoying the competition.

forgot to bid 04-06-2015 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by Raging white (Post 1857072)
Is it too late to have the NC put language in our openers that would give half a pilots' rotation guarentee to the pilot that has to put the company headset he left out away for him?

Why do people keep putting the company headsets away? Especially on the 717, they're the nice ones. About 40% of the time I have to go look for it.

We're airline pilots. They're free. We like free. Leave them connected.

Justdoinmyjob 04-06-2015 07:09 PM

Just so we're all clear. When the company decides to do away with providing cabin seats for DH, and wants us to use the jumpseat for it, using the excuse, "Well, you guys routinely give up a contractual benefit to sit in the jumpseat anyway, let's just remove it from the contract." That's not a concession, is it?

I mean, we routinely vilified guys for greenslipping with fourloughees still out, even though it was allowed by the contract, but we turn a blind eye to contract violations by pilots? What next? Suppose guys started picking and choosing which sections of the contract to follow or not. Xray said the contract protects us from management. It also protects us from ourselves.

Y'all choose to do what you want. I will continue to refuse the agent's requests to sit on a jumpseat when I DH. And please don't come asking me to do it. You are asking me to violate the contract and I refuse to do so.

forgot to bid 04-06-2015 07:13 PM

I think Duke just took it with 2 minutes left.

Raging white 04-06-2015 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1857105)
Why do people keep putting the company headsets away? Especially on the 717, they're the nice ones. About 40% of the time I have to go look for it.

We're airline pilots. They're free. We like free. Leave them connected.


Most of us own headsets. Its not that cool to make someone else clean up after you.


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