Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
04-09-2015, 06:51 PM
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This may have been covered somewhere else, but what is the % of international to all mainline flying. (Montreal and Nassau count.)
04-09-2015, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Pushback is the one time the airplane is moving but you are NOT in direct control of it. You can't even hit the brakes, you might break something expensive. Might as well put the data into the box, since you are along for the ride anyway.
Have you watched the cd yet? You're exactly right.....
BUT, I always have the F/O do it, since I'm the one talking to the tug driver and I like to keep my eyes outside, just to see what's going on. But he can't be doing that AND starting an engine at the same time, so do one or the other, but not both at the same time.
Both pilots in the seats need to verify the data before its entered. I like to read it from the print out to verify date, ship number, flight number etc. As well as all the other stuff. The FO verifies the auto upload and then the relief double checks us.
We do get paid by the minute, what's the hurry? If you rush, you will make mistakes and/or miss something... at least that's what I tell my wife when she wants me to mow the lawn.
Have you watched the cd yet? You're exactly right.....
BUT, I always have the F/O do it, since I'm the one talking to the tug driver and I like to keep my eyes outside, just to see what's going on. But he can't be doing that AND starting an engine at the same time, so do one or the other, but not both at the same time.
Both pilots in the seats need to verify the data before its entered. I like to read it from the print out to verify date, ship number, flight number etc. As well as all the other stuff. The FO verifies the auto upload and then the relief double checks us.
We do get paid by the minute, what's the hurry? If you rush, you will make mistakes and/or miss something... at least that's what I tell my wife when she wants me to mow the lawn.
Don't get me wrong, I think the extra 30 seconds I take by going step by step is well worth it and I won't change the way I do things. (Especially since I now think the cd backs me up!)
Denny
04-09-2015, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog
I love these comments on putting the numbers in by the widebody guys. You do what 8 a month maybe? Plus you have 3-4 people looking and verifying the AWABS? I just find it funny, not that anything you said was wrong.
By the way, the only reason I did it so early is I was on a trip. I hate doing it at home.
Denny
04-09-2015, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog
I love these comments on putting the numbers in by the widebody guys. You do what 8 a month maybe? Plus you have 3-4 people looking and verifying the AWABS? I just find it funny, not that anything you said was wrong.
How many years did you spend on the panel, doing takeoff data by hand, using charts and a slide rule, while also doing manual pay sheets and filling out F/A time slips?
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04-09-2015, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
I'm with you, I do not rush and that is my point. (And I think that's the point of the cd.) It's just not the impression I've gotten lately with the direction about gate latency and trying to shorten our taxi times lately.
Don't get me wrong, I think the extra 30 seconds I take by going step by step is well worth it and I won't change the way I do things. (Especially since I now think the cd backs me up!)
Denny
Don't get me wrong, I think the extra 30 seconds I take by going step by step is well worth it and I won't change the way I do things. (Especially since I now think the cd backs me up!)
Denny
Just last week we were ready to go in the cockpit when the agent shut the door 10 minutes early, stranding a non-rev outside, in the window, we could see her waving at us. We still had all 3 cargo doors open, so I called the tug driver to ask how much longer.
He said, "It'll be another 20 minutes, minimum."
I then called Passenger Assist, and told them to find the agent, and open the door, and put the non-rev on, NOW!
It took 10 minutes of back and forth, arguing, while all 3 cargo doors were still open, but they finally got a red coat to open the door and put the non-rev on, and they finally got the cargo doors closed, 15 minutes later. So we pushed about 30 minutes late, had 180 kt tailwind across the pond, and 13 hours later, landed in Dubai an hour early.
SD can take that gate latency crap and shove it. I'll do it at my own pace, or SD can come down the jetway and fly it himself.
The nitwits who write these memos live in cubicles and rarely turn a wheel, they risk nothing when they go to work on the 4th floor. They are only concerned with justifying their jobs by coming up with some new "Metric" to measure us with.
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04-09-2015, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
How many years did you spend on the panel, doing takeoff data by hand, using charts and a slide rule, while also doing manual pay sheets and filling out F/A time slips?
04-10-2015, 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
I haven't seen the newest CQ CD, but when they came out with that Gate Latency nonsense I just laughed. How many times have I sat at the gate for 45 minutes while they removed a bag for a customer who didn't show up...
Just last week we were ready to go in the cockpit when the agent shut the door 10 minutes early, stranding a non-rev outside, in the window, we could see her waving at us. We still had all 3 cargo doors open, so I called the tug driver to ask how much longer.
He said, "It'll be another 20 minutes, minimum."
I then called Passenger Assist, and told them to find the agent, and open the door, and put the non-rev on, NOW!
It took 10 minutes of back and forth, arguing, while all 3 cargo doors were still open, but they finally got a red coat to open the door and put the non-rev on, and they finally got the cargo doors closed, 15 minutes later. So we pushed about 30 minutes late, had 180 kt tailwind across the pond, and 13 hours later, landed in Dubai an hour early.
SD can take that gate latency crap and shove it. I'll do it at my own pace, or SD can come down the jetway and fly it himself.
The nitwits who write these memos live in cubicles and rarely turn a wheel, they risk nothing when they go to work on the 4th floor. They are only concerned with justifying their jobs by coming up with some new "Metric" to measure us with.
Just last week we were ready to go in the cockpit when the agent shut the door 10 minutes early, stranding a non-rev outside, in the window, we could see her waving at us. We still had all 3 cargo doors open, so I called the tug driver to ask how much longer.
He said, "It'll be another 20 minutes, minimum."
I then called Passenger Assist, and told them to find the agent, and open the door, and put the non-rev on, NOW!
It took 10 minutes of back and forth, arguing, while all 3 cargo doors were still open, but they finally got a red coat to open the door and put the non-rev on, and they finally got the cargo doors closed, 15 minutes later. So we pushed about 30 minutes late, had 180 kt tailwind across the pond, and 13 hours later, landed in Dubai an hour early.
SD can take that gate latency crap and shove it. I'll do it at my own pace, or SD can come down the jetway and fly it himself.
The nitwits who write these memos live in cubicles and rarely turn a wheel, they risk nothing when they go to work on the 4th floor. They are only concerned with justifying their jobs by coming up with some new "Metric" to measure us with.
04-10-2015, 03:34 AM
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Beat me to it!
Originally Posted by Humboldt
and walking to school, barefoot, uphill both ways, in the snow...
04-10-2015, 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog
I love these comments on putting the numbers in by the widebody guys. You do what 8 a month maybe? Plus you have 3-4 people looking and verifying the AWABS? I just find it funny, not that anything you said was wrong.
Probably because in my time on the ER not all of the paperwork came on time. It'd turn into a 3 ring circus up there sometimes and it's still a one man show on loading that stuff Even with 3 people watching you.
Forget that.
04-10-2015, 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
on the 717 we have auto upload, fantastic, the 88 doesnt.
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