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Old 04-13-2015 | 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I was going to post a pic. That is exactly my plan later.

For my family a travel plane would really be unnecessary, we need a play plane and learn to fly plane. So I did the math and a C150 is the way I want to go, and I'm kind of favoring the 150hp engine ones that have a higher gross weight. The only issue, I don't recall fitting in these planes. I remember my legs were too long and I couldn't turn the yoke very well. The C172 was massive in comparison.

Here's me 23 years ago learning to fly in a C152:



But it's the goal. Teach the kids to fly. No CFI cost. Mogas STC. I've got big dreams.




^^^^ Tailwheel conversion? Hmmmmm.

I go to the local airports here around ATL and kind of scoff. A lot of the C172s have G1000s, min 5 hour checkout at $260/hr. Find the older C172Rs or Ss and it's still pretty expensive. Found one place that was cheap but the planes matched the price but the CFI there was really cool.

Speaking of A36 rental. Here, there is one in ATL. $415/hr. Any CFI is $80/hr. http://www.lanierflightcenter.com/fl...rates-pricing/ My guess is probably more like 25 hours of A36 time to rent that one but thats only because I saw a 1990 something PA32 for rent but 25 hours of PA32R time required.

Bucking Bar could provide some color on that.
I have a 150 on the north side of the ATL that you are more than welcome to come out and fly. I'm 6' tall and 210 and I can fit. It is cheap to fly, Mogas STC, very docile. PM me if you want to give it a try. Just buy the gas.
Old 04-13-2015 | 06:45 AM
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No action in the backdoor yet. Guess I need to be more patient
Old 04-13-2015 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by NERD
No action in the backdoor yet. Guess I need to be more patient
Flowers and chocolate work. Diamonds, diamonds work too! You gotta work her up slowly though.

Oh, wait. It's the 13th. THAT back door. Never mind.
Old 04-13-2015 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I know everybody loves those things. Slick looking. And I do like tandems. I kind of like Husky despite their faults compared to the Carbon Cubs.


But can you legally teach a kid to fly in an experimental? That's my goal.
You can teach someone to fly in a RV. They are a higher performance then a 152 or other trainers. I would recommend through solo in a 152/172. If training is a goal look at the RV9A. You give up aerobatics in exchange for more Cessna like flying characteristics. I know several people who have however earned their entire private in a RV. The tandem RV's are not suitable for instruction due to the lack of rear seat brakes. You will need a side by side which means a RV6/7/9. Maintenance is much lower since you can do it yourself and there is almost always local RV guys who love helping out. Experimental parts are often a fraction of price of certified parts!
Old 04-13-2015 | 09:48 AM
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I gotta know, how does a guy pull a greenslip for a trip that is still more than 24hrs from report? Why is that trip not still subject to PCS?
Old 04-13-2015 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Superdad
I gotta know, how does a guy pull a greenslip for a trip that is still more than 24hrs from report? Why is that trip not still subject to PCS?
Basically section 23 N and O. The last time there is an automated PCS run is 7am for next day swaps or WS. After the 7am run, it is all manual coverage with the scheduler working through each step of trip coverage. So, when the scheduler is covering next day trips and they get to GS, they start passing them out.
Old 04-13-2015 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Superdad
I gotta know, how does a guy pull a greenslip for a trip that is still more than 24hrs from report? Why is that trip not still subject to PCS?
If it's an MED trip, they award those far enough out for you to start the Malarone.
Old 04-13-2015 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
Flowers and chocolate work. Diamonds, diamonds work too! You gotta work her up slowly though.

Oh, wait. It's the 13th. THAT back door. Never mind.
Are the flowers and chocolate for before or after? Bribe or reward?
Old 04-13-2015 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
Carl,
While I don't have the regs in front of me, a RTG to put more passengers on would definitely require a call to the dispatcher and departing without it could lead to FAA action against you. Think about it. You put more bodies and weight on the airplane. Your takeoff data is now voided and you would be taking off with invalid numbers. Think the FAA doesn't care about that? We used to have the 1000# slop to cover this, but no more. In the end though, why would you need to know the actual regs wording? Common sense dictates the call. You changed the condition of the original release by returning. CYA at a minimum.
I agree, but that wasn't the case with us. Those four business folks were supposed to be on that airplane and were on the SPIL because they were first class. The actual pax count equaled the weight data pax count for just that reason. Had the agent been successful in keeping them off the flight, we probably would have gotten an amended weight data and pax count on taxi out.

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Old 04-13-2015 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
You can teach someone to fly in a RV. They are a higher performance then a 152 or other trainers. I would recommend through solo in a 152/172. If training is a goal look at the RV9A. You give up aerobatics in exchange for more Cessna like flying characteristics. I know several people who have however earned their entire private in a RV. The tandem RV's are not suitable for instruction due to the lack of rear seat brakes. You will need a side by side which means a RV6/7/9. Maintenance is much lower since you can do it yourself and there is almost always local RV guys who love helping out. Experimental parts are often a fraction of price of certified parts!
The Air Force proved a long time ago, you can teach anyone to fly in a T37 and a T38!

Jet Airplanes!

Anything slower, with a propeller, just gives the student more time to reconsider his choices. You don't have time to think up there, you think... YOU're Dead!

That being said, if you start in a tail wheel airplane, you WILL be a better pilot in the end.

Put a tail wheel on a T38, I'm in!
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