Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
They sure seem confident in a pilot contract being done before the due date. Not sure how they expect only a 2% increase in employee costs and a new pilot contract. Sure sounds like they don't plan on reaching into the wallet. Perhaps they already have direction from ALPA and offsets are in the works.
Also confirmed that we will be down to 7 747's at the end of this year with only 6 flying.

Also confirmed that we will be down to 7 747's at the end of this year with only 6 flying.


1) you can increase wages in c2015 to a level that would pass by 51%
2) park WBs
3) without WBs the C2015 pay increase is only a net 2% increase on total cost to the company.
4) it's not cost neutral... we made more money per pilot.
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Delta isn't reducing flights to China.
Europe, meh. The world knows the Euro will stop being a currency eventually. Then what? Greece prints Drachmas and gets to have fake nirvana all over again. Spain prints, Portugal prints their own and so on. Last I checked, visa and MasterCard were accepted in all of Europe. There's your euro. The EU violated their own terms with the simple act of giving bailouts. The good news is, the borders are more open than they were pre-EU. So trade is done in dollars. I got no problem with that. And the countries that used to be cheap to go visit pre-euro will be cheap again. Germany will always be the powerhouse in Europe. England was wise to not join in the tomfoolery. Even though I understand Deltas business decision, although on a personal level I don't like it, I tend to agree with you assertion that code shares will do the flying...although I'm not certain that equates to holding the bag.
So two observations about Europe, One, what does this do to our codeshare percentages and what's ALPAs response...and two, given the potential for meltdown in Europe, with Delta obviously positioning themselves to be on the sidelines, when is the timing right to short the market?
Evidently you 777 guys have heavy discussions that would make the pink Financial Times proud.
We 717 guys basically ask "wife, kids, where do you live" and expect nothing more than a "Yes, 2, Newnan, visual backed up by ILS, 1199 and baro, missed with tower", end of back story and then start back down.
We 717 guys basically ask "wife, kids, where do you live" and expect nothing more than a "Yes, 2, Newnan, visual backed up by ILS, 1199 and baro, missed with tower", end of back story and then start back down.
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Well, that's my point. They offer the buyout, and guys on other equipment take it, and get asked to 'stick around' because they are LCA's or they are just short of captains in that category. OR the 747's 'stick around' longer than planned. How many times did that happen with the DC9? It does affect everyone because they didn't staff for that position with a non-buyout pilot, at least until they guy leaves. I'm just saying, if there's a buyout, then there needs to be a 'drop dead' date after which you're out the door. There are people who took the last buyout who are still here, flying trips.
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Evidently you 777 guys have heavy discussions that would make the pink Financial Times proud.
We 717 guys basically ask "wife, kids, where do you live" and expect nothing more than a "Yes, 2, Newnan, visual backed up by ILS, 1199 and baro, missed with tower", end of back story and then start back down.
We 717 guys basically ask "wife, kids, where do you live" and expect nothing more than a "Yes, 2, Newnan, visual backed up by ILS, 1199 and baro, missed with tower", end of back story and then start back down.

You domestic guys don't have enough time between pulling the gear up and putting it down to get into China's economy and Russian politics.

As I tell my F/O's,
"I'm not aware of too many things, I know what I know, if you know what I mean. Choke me in the shallow water, before I get to... deep."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDl3bdE3YQA
Delta Air Lines Inc., bowing to pressure from the strong dollar and lower travel demand from oil-dependent economies, on Wednesday said it would cut its overseas capacity by 3% this winter—or a 6% reduction from prior plans.
The biggest year-over-year cuts will come on routes to Japan, Brazil, Africa, India and the Middle East, it said, along with the seasonal suspension of service to Moscow. The company said those moves, which will result in flat capacity overall in the fourth quarter, should help return its unit-revenue performance to growth after several quarters of declines.
The biggest year-over-year cuts will come on routes to Japan, Brazil, Africa, India and the Middle East, it said, along with the seasonal suspension of service to Moscow. The company said those moves, which will result in flat capacity overall in the fourth quarter, should help return its unit-revenue performance to growth after several quarters of declines.
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