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Great article. Thanks.

 

Simple math can show the loss of potential income.

Beating the drum of planned retirements is dumb, sorry. Age 65 probably won't stay. I'd like to see it go back to age 60, but thatS an entirely different conversation.

With no reason for people to bid, or progress their career, stagnation occurs. Simple. Loss of QOL. If you want pay banding, go work for an airline with one fleet type. A benefit of DAL is options. Lots. For QOL of a base, of different categories. Throw pay banding in... Those options shrink as there is less motivation for others to bid around the system.

It greatly reduces staffing. Do I need to explain that?

If, and if this was 9/15/2001 or during BK.... And it solved some huge problem to keep us afloat, talk to me then. I'm all for saving the company bacon... But this is not the right time nor place for pay banding.

I've told my reps... So be it. 15yrs of BS ALPA. I'm hoping for a better experience at DALPA. If not, I'll sign a card... I haven't yet, because I want to see this section 6 first.

 

What kind of restriction Is the company looking for with banding? Because that will be the most important factor. Can you change in your band, only go up in bands etc.that determines how bad it is. Can anyone shed light on what the co wants in terms of band restrictions. Also what would the bands be.
Thanks

 

Since section 3 is the last part of the contract discussed, this is all just mental whackin off. When someone throws a grenade in a room, we all debate the heck out of it and watch it blow up.

That said, pay banding as we are discussing it just equals the pay rate across similarly size aircraft. In this way training is reduced since there is no reason to chase pay rate within the band.

No one can shed light on what the company want except the guys that have signed NDAs.

 

It's actually age 68 In Japan. you can still pilot an airliner when you're 67 but must retire at 68, so it was a 3 year extension.

So age 68 in the way we say things.

 

I think the company should hand out samurai swords when guys reach sixty. You know, as an act of goodwill.

 

AE QUESTION:

I was awarded a different base on an AE and am happy with my seniority in that base. (say 50% in category) If I suspect in the next few AE's that I will be bumped back quite a bit, does a request in the first request of new base 50%, then 2nd request of old base do anything for me?

Current Award : ATL 73N 50%
next ae request: ATL73N 50%, NYC 73N

Meaning if I can't stay at 50% in base, I want to go back to my old base, where I was senior if there is an opening.

or do I have to risk it and just bid back to old base?

Thanks

 

I see your age 68 rule and raise you one! I vote for age sixty-nine! Flyin' til you be dyin' has a nice ring to it on a bag tag. Sixty will be the new 40! http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technol...living-5525916

 

If you have an AE request in, you are asking for the move. My guess, because I didn't get it clearly in the explanation, is that you are 50% in ATL 73n if you can't stay at 50% or higher! you want to go be senior in JFK again.

If you're in category, an AE preference for your current category is a waste. A voluntary displacement might be more what you want or a simple AE back to your old base.