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Old 08-20-2015 | 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeF16
FDP limit for a short call assignment:
• Scheduled FDP must end no later than the earlier of:
1. FDP report time plus FDP limit from FAR Part 117 table B or C.
2. RAP start time plus: FAR part 117 table C value (augmented crew) plus 4 hours, including FDP extensions.
3. RAP start time plus: FAR part 117 table B value (unaugmented crew) plus 4 hours, not to exceed 16 hours prior to any extension.

I got that from the scheduling reference handbook, don't ask me to translate.
Mike,

How close are you to system plug captain?

Ghillis,

Same question.
Old 08-20-2015 | 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Xray678
Wow, ATL 320 went very senior.
Yeah, what gives? Bunch of Retards-Retards -- don't people realize it's French!?! And the radar sucks. And the stupid "from" box is silly. And the trip mix is like an 88. And it doesn't descend at top of descent. The plane is a mess. For future AEs, 73NFO is looking really good...
Old 08-20-2015 | 05:32 AM
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I have sinned. Badly. And by the grace of God was forgiven.

I'm sure you guys saw the news on the internet. I no longer have to hide.

Don't judge me. You probably didn't do any better in your own little way. And I can assure you I will never do it again. EVER.







And what I mean is, the shape my Mcrib was in was awful. The way i treated that thing was a sin and there was a lot of sinning. But IT GONE now!


What did you think I was talking about?
Old 08-20-2015 | 05:43 AM
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Never have understood the entitlement mentality concerning those complaining about how others fly the contract...

Kudos to those who really learn their contract and fly it to maximum effect...

Due to my stagnant seniority, I've been dropping my entire schedule for over ten years and have been able to greatly improve my time off and pay... it sure has beaten ten years of flying all weekends, holidays and redeyes, that my seniority would have afforded me!

Advice for all newbies:

Learn section 23 backwards and forwards... this is the bread and butter of your every day working life. It really isn't difficult... just take it one sentence at a time.

Also, whenever you are getting ready to do something you haven't done for awhile, read and fully understand that section. I.e., bidding vacation, bidding an AE, etc... I flew with two FOs last year that missed their coast to coast paid moves because they didn't know a VD entitled them to said move... that cost them thousands of dollars!

Bottom line... fly your negotiated contract to maximum personal effect!

Bon Chance!

P.s., Removed quote because this really applied to several posters.

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Old 08-20-2015 | 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Sputnik
Still learning. So for my own stupid reasons, I had a ys in as first to fly on res day. Instead got assigned SC starting at 0400 and running till 1600 (next day is a golden day). At 05 still on SC. Little later check sched and I'm on a trip that gets in around 1900. Sched calls (side note, now know why all pilots hate scheds) and is somewhat shocked when I ask how it's legal to run me 3 hours past my sc window. Huffily offers to look it up. Does so and reads a bunch of numbers at me that sum up to me being legal (can fly) till 2000.

Is that true?

(I will read the PWA, but I find it a legal substitute for ambien)
Yeah, when it comes to the PWA scenarios like this aren't the easiest thing to confirm whether or not all is legit. But from the sound of it what happened to you seems completely legal: You can be used for a 15 hour day. Curious if you discovered anything in your research that would disagree with what the scheduler said.
Old 08-20-2015 | 06:14 AM
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So I have another question for you all. I was able to drop a 4 day trip and now there is a trip with a "q" next to it with another FO on it that I would like to pick up. However when I go to the Icrew swap board it does not show. How do I go about picking up this trip? Do I put in a white slip?
Old 08-20-2015 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I have sinned. Badly. And by the grace of God was forgiven.

I'm sure you guys saw the news on the internet. I no longer have to hide.

Don't judge me. You probably didn't do any better in your own little way. And I can assure you I will never do it again. EVER.







And what I mean is, the shape my Mcrib was in was awful. The way i treated that thing was a sin and there was a lot of sinning. But IT GONE now!


What did you think I was talking about?
Good luck getting back on the sub diet. Louis CK does a pretty good job starting a 5:30 of explaining what you're dealing with.

Old 08-20-2015 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Brocc15
So I have another question for you all. I was able to drop a 4 day trip and now there is a trip with a "q" next to it with another FO on it that I would like to pick up. However when I go to the Icrew swap board it does not show. How do I go about picking up this trip? Do I put in a white slip?
Section 23... ws... if your number one requesting it, you'll get it on the noon pcs run.
Old 08-20-2015 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by LivingTheDream
Never have understood the entitlement mentality concerning those complaining about how others fly the contract...

Kudos to those who really learn their contract and fly it to maximum effect...

Due to my stagnant seniority, I've been dropping my entire schedule for over ten years and have been able to greatly improve my time off and pay... it sure has beaten ten years of flying all weekends, holidays and redeyes, that my seniority would have afforded me!

Advice for all newbies:

Learn section 23 backwards and forwards... this is the bread and butter of your every day working life. It really isn't difficult... just take it one sentence at a time.

Also, whenever you are getting ready to do something you haven't done for awhile, read and fully understand that section. I.e., bidding vacation, bidding an AE, etc... I flew with two FOs last year that missed their coast to coast paid moves because they didn't know a VD entitled them to said move... that cost them thousands of dollars!

Bottom line... fly your negotiated contract to maximum personal effect!

Bon Chance!

P.s., Removed quote because this really applied to several posters.
100% agree. If it's allowed in the contract it's nobody else's business! I have dropped down to 33 hours next month and am going to OOB WS ATL to fill up. I will also keep a GS in for NYC. Under my Ws prefs I put in for no more than 1 leg a day max of 2 days for trip length. I also put in that trip must layover in JAX, MCO, TPA, SRQ, RSW, PNS. Then pref#2 is same as above but layovers in FLL, MIA, RDU, SAT, AUS, and DAB. It works like a champ.
Old 08-20-2015 | 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by LivingTheDream
Never have understood the entitlement mentality concerning those complaining about how others fly the contract...

Kudos to those who really learn their contract and fly it to maximum effect...

Due to my stagnant seniority, I've been dropping my entire schedule for over ten years and have been able to greatly improve my time off and pay... it sure has beaten ten years of flying all weekends, holidays and redeyes, that my seniority would have afforded me!

Advice for all newbies:

Learn section 23 backwards and forwards... this is the bread and butter of your every day working life. It really isn't difficult... just take it one sentence at a time.

Also, whenever you are getting ready to do something you haven't done for awhile, read and fully understand that section. I.e., bidding vacation, bidding an AE, etc... I flew with two FOs last year that missed their coast to coast paid moves because they didn't know a VD entitled them to said move... that cost them thousands of dollars!

Bottom line... fly your negotiated contract to maximum personal effect!

Bon Chance!

P.s., Removed quote because this really applied to several posters.
I agree 1000%. I think some people care way too much what other people are doing, I specifically bid weekends off over commutable (if I can't get both) because it's easier to drop trips. Learn the system and use it to your advantage!
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