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09-06-2015 | 07:26 AM

#185191

BlaneO

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Where can I find how much spillover time there is in a carryout rotation? The trip is not in the original bid package, and I can't find the breakout in icrew.

09-06-2015 | 08:17 AM

#185192

Jughead135

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From: Hates Commuting

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlaneO

Where can I find how much spillover time there is in a carryout rotation? The trip is not in the original bid package, and I can't find the breakout in icrew.

Easiest place is if the trip is in Open Time--it'll break it out for you on the summary page.

Only other way I've found is to do the math--take the time from the day(s) in the current month, subtract from the trip's total. Remember, all credit paid on the last day (i.e., in the carryout month), except your DPM (2:00), if applicable, pays on the specific day(s) in question.

09-06-2015 | 08:44 AM

#185193

sailingfun

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Originally Posted by Mesabah

You 737-900 guys have balls of steel. I think I'd crap my pants on that take off roll. Saw one today just get off the ground prior to reaching the numbers on the opposite side. I know it's all calculated, but whoa.

Something like this?

http://youtu.be/aWtdtuspnoM

09-06-2015 | 09:11 AM

#185194

Jughead135

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From: Hates Commuting

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlaneO

Where can I find how much spillover time there is in a carryout rotation? The trip is not in the original bid package, and I can't find the breakout in icrew.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jughead135

PS: Also, once the next month's bid package comes out, the carryout trips are listed there for anything changed or added, at the very end of the bid packet (it will say "REPLACES # XXXX" for a changed rotation, or "REPLACES # NEW" for an added one). Still doesn't give you the breakout like the list at the top of the bid pack, though....

09-06-2015 | 01:22 PM

#185195

buzzpat

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From: Urban chicken rancher.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Masters

There have been a few times where I'm looking at the speed tape then the end of the runway, speed tape/runway, speed tape/runway wondering if its gonna work. I wonder of there is an equation for so much speed to go before V1 versus so much runway remaining.

Man, I can't tell you how many times I've done that. Trust the numbers, trust the numbers, .....

09-06-2015 | 01:52 PM

#185196

tomgoodman

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From: 767A (Ret)

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Originally Posted by buzzpat

Man, I can't tell you how many times I've done that. Trust the numbers, trust the numbers, .....

Our unit of modified C-135s was transferred to Wright-Patterson, and those guys were alarmed at our takeoff rolls. They ran measurements with a laser device and found: "The numbers were wrong, the numbers were wrong..."

09-06-2015 | 01:58 PM

#185197

Scoop

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From: DAL 330

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mesabah

Not strictly a 900 issue. The way we default to high AT takeoff power settings, de-rates, we routinely rotate near the end on 10,000+ runways.

I have seen guys argue this from both sides. Some guys don't like it and insist that it increases the risks while others argue that the likelihood of an engine failure are reduced with lower power takeoffs.

My personal opinion is that the derates are a good thing - as long as we don't take it (and the takeoff roll

) too far.

Scoop

09-06-2015 | 02:12 PM

#185198

dalad

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From: C560XL/XLS/XLS+

Apparently none of you flew the 727 ATL-LAX.

09-06-2015 | 02:30 PM

#185199

Carl Spackler

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From: 747-400 Captain

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timbo

And don't forget about the lost 747 jobs, they are parking those airplanes faster than guys are retiring, leading to a net surplus of senior pilots being displaced to lower paying A330 jobs.

Meanwhile...the MD-11 were content to switch our JV Scope measure from Seat Miles to Block Hours, which would make one of our 757's flying to Europe equal to a KLM/Air France A380 flying to ATL!

Quote:

Originally Posted by D Mantooth

Really?

So the TA would have eliminated the global production balance in Section One that measures and protects widebody international ASMs?

I didn't know that.

Timbo is right Mantooth. While it's true there is a global production balance based on ASM's, the minimum floor of that production balance is about 15-20% LESS than the ASM's we're currently flying. This leaves plenty of room to shrink into the minimum had we voted YES to your concessionary TA and gave up EASK's.

Carl

09-06-2015 | 02:46 PM

#185200

GogglesPisano

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From: Sitting SC at the Five Towns

The next AE is late OCT/early NOV:

Toying with 717A vs (current) 765B ...

Hmmm ...

1) 24 layovers in prime spots in Europe or 10 hr layovers at the airport Holiday Inn in (it doesn't matter-ville)

2) "Non-stop buffet until happy hour" vs pretzels.

3) Afternoon sign-ins vs 0500's

4) iCrew currency pop-ups vs 5 legs/day.

5) Dinner in a cobblestone street cafe in Nice vs. TGIF in Flint.

Keep it going people! ......