Heck I have seen a 767 chartered from ATL-to DAB for the 500

Sports charters are a lot more quiet nowadays because they have banned alcohol from them. This was mostly in the interest of liability....there were several high profile incidents where players were boozing it up on chareter flights and then driving home from the airport and killing themselves or others. Because of this, the sports leagues themselves banned drinking on charters. Removing the drinking eliminates a lot of the problems on these flights with young athletes who are used to getting their way with everything.

I've done a lot of Baseball charters in recent years and aside from the constant card games they play (where the stakes are surprisingly large) the flights themselves are pretty tame. However, to back up your point, in talking to some of the more "senior" F/A's up here in BOS, the baseball charters were pretty wild affairs with drinking and skirt chasing in the 70's and 80's and they remember several big name players as particularly obnoxious.....but I think the culture of after game partying and carousing is a little more prevalent in Baseball than other sports.

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From my best friends sisters cousin's brother.

AE second week of Oct. with BACKFILL!

SO I hear too.

Do you think this will be the last one before the merger?, i.e., get where you want because you may be there for a while.

Probably not. They are predicting a few between now and SOC.
For one the company needs to see what the arbitrator finds. If there are three plus year fences on wide bodies they will need to rearrange a few bases or have some long term plan for all of their planned shift to the flying. That will require a few significant AE's.

Wouldn't a five or six year fence be nice? It would be a good way to ensure "status quo."

I thought that "no fences" was part of the deal. Am I mistaken?

I dont think mngt. wanted fences. Although I believe it's up to the arbitrators how and if they go up in the first place. I'd be surprised if there is NOT any fences of some kind.

But once again, it's all in someone else's hands.

Management also has the right to reject the seniority list unless there was something in the joint contract that stated they would abide by the arbitration decision. If there are operational restrictions they don't like they might reject it. I am also in favor of long fences. Something at least 7 or 8 years would work just fine. It would keep the flood of very senior narrow body greenbook captains from coming across to international Captain overnight stagnating the advancement for pre merger Delta pilots.

I'm for medium term fences as well. I think it's the only way to keep this place from becoming a cluster where nobody knows when they'll upgrade, if they can hold what they have, or what their seniority is/will be in their category. Status quo for 5 years or so while all the pieces fall into place seems like it would be good for everyone.

I'm not sure if mis-management can reject an arbitrated or negotiated combined list and what the result of that would be. What would be the timetable for a new list? What would be the incentive to hurry it up a second time or make changes? I see them taking whatever the arbitrator rules on or we negotiate, and running with it.