Just go under company business (not crew travel and book it yourself... no skeds call needed... that's for domestic... for int'l, do the same, but then call skeds with your locator number and have them move you to delta one... I do these all the time).

 

The answer is, because we always done it this way! Or this is how we did it in the (insert branch of the military )

 

Not on my walk-around....I'm lucky to remember those lights half the time

 

Don't lose sight here Mike. This was originally about the OE carve out. With recovery rights, as we used to have, you could be assigned trips that were not completely in the footprint of your original trip, hence commuting disaster.

That is what we are talking about, some sort of protection from that. We commuters understand that you do not commute and therefore you should not have to waste negotiating capital for what you are voicing concerns with, PS to work. We do fine as it is, but when you do everything right and are responsible the company, with regards to OE assignments, should help us out. Don't make this into a commuter bashing "it is a choice" issue.

 

Mike,

First off unless you uprooted your family and moved to the Cracker Kremlin, aka Atlanta, then there is no guarantee that you won't become a commuter in your career. We had bases in BOS, ORD, MSY, DFW, MCO, PDX, MIA, MEM and CVG was a lot bigger.

So when people say commuting is a choice I say that it is kind of a choice. Secondly, as has been pointed out, this is not about PS to work during every rotation. It is PS to work when you were assigned a trip that you planned on flying and they changed the report day. This can cause some headaches as you have now missed out on reserving a jumpseat because of the late notice.

 

Yup, and even if they don't close your base, they could pull your equipment out and put it somewhere else, just ask the MSP A330 guys how they like commuting to ATL now.

If the company changes your trip, or the sign in or return time, THEY should be responsible for getting you to/from that trip, or they could just release you and give it to a reserve.

 

Random question. Can new hires in the pool register for chitchat? Or only after we get a class and seniority number?
Thanks

 

Maybe a dumb question: When jumpseating international (on delta) and the gate agent gives you a seat, do you not check in at the cockpit? I have been and feel like I'm getting weird looks

 

I'm not making this a commuter bashing issue. I did it for a year and the fact is, it is a choice. Now, if something should come up in the contract which entails recovery flying, then I agree whole heartedly the company needs to take care of commuters who are trying to do the right thing. That said, I have to assume those who have went before me bargained hard to get rid of recovery flying for OE, why the heck would I want to vote for any contract that gives it away?

Sadly, I moved to ATL -- based at least partly on the history of DAL closing what seem to be rock solid domiciles. I moved 13 times in 21 years of military service, I've had it.

The MSP guys could choose to fly a different airplane if they were displaced. I also believe if you are displaced you get a paid move from the company. I agree it is unfortunate if your plane is ripped out from under you, but nobody is forcing those guys to commute.

I agree on your 2nd paragraph. I quoted somebody who had no context to recovery flying and just said PS to work would be nice -- in the same vein as somebody who wanted to negotiate for an improvement to buddy passes. To clarify, I would not trade anything for unrestricted PS to work or improvements to buddy passes, I never implied or said anything about potential recovery flying.

 

Our FOM does not require it, but it's a courtesy.