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As to your little personal slap at the end, I suggest a course in reading comprehension. I've not ever clammed up, though some seem to wish I would. Apparently my presence makes their community here uncomfortable...[/quote]

I take it by the green Chesire cat smile you are joking, but seriously though, the more views and opinions we are all exposed to, the better informed we all become.

Scoop

 

Good point. The post 2007 DAL-N pilots get a pure 1.5% increase in their DC.

 

The Professor's long post made a very salient point. We are negotiating on how to split up a pie that we don't get to cook. If we really want to see true gains we need to get our hands on the revenue stream. ACL brought this up with the JAL JV. If we give our support we should get a piece of the revenue, not the profit.

Prof is right, we are not like other employee groups. We are the only union, for now. We are also unique to the operation. No revenue can be generated without pilots. It's time we change the paradigm.

 

I was kind of enjoying the new latest and greatest.

 

Satch, your post confuses me. How much revenue can you generate as a pilot without someone selling the tickets? Boarding the planes? Doing the maintenance? Filing the Sarbanes-Oxley? Answer: None.

We are unique to the operation. We are not unique to revenue generation.

 

I don't think management needs your help in arguing their side. Maybe you should consider arguing our side for a change?

 

But is the operation not the generation of revenue? Our organization and numbers make us unique. No other group of employees has the ability to stop the revenue stream. The ticket sellers, gate agents, mx, and accountants aren't going to band together and shut down the machine. A few individuals might think they are worth more but individuals can be replaced. Isn't that the whole idea of a union?

Not saying that it would be easy or even possible, but taking the same ol'e pie and cutting it into different pieces is not going to advance our total compensation.

 

iPhone works well if you get the Journey app ( I think around $1.99). You can list and check loads on travelnet. Most features work on icrew, though I have had a little trouble doing leave requests, moving x-days, etc. Works just fine for checking schedules, opentime, reserve lists. Sometimes it will require a little more patience than using a computer, but in my opnion it's worth every penny. Very convenient to have access to this info anywhere, especially if you're on reserve, or a commuter, or even worse - both!

Plus you can keep up with this thread a lot easier during those 3 hour productivity sits.

 

I argue our side all the time, but I choose to make rational arguments, not emotional ones. Emotional ones feel good for a short time but generally don't produce desired results. I would assume you'd want to make the most effective argument, not the pandering argument wouldn't you?

 

Slow, I believe everyone would like that. Moreover, everyone would like to make points on here that resonate with fellow pilots as well as members of our LEC's and MEC who may or may not be listening. Some here may be trying to persuade others. However, I believe most are here to vent in some cases and exchange ideas and learn in most cases.

While this is only one of several data streams available to collect and process the sentiment and will of the pilot group, it is one that allows interaction; which can be valuable.

That interaction with our MEC and LEC leadership on here is even more illuminating and helpful when that interaction is not delivered with an incessantly condescending tone.

We are all on the same team. Typically people complain because they are dissatisfied and may not have the 'big' picture. Some percentage will always complain. However, sometimes the complaints are based in fact and have great merit.

Education is the success of great communication. Persuasion is something you use in a bar on Friday night. Or layover...