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With this new program, what exactly is a 'validation' ride, and as mentioned above, why would we want it done by FO's instead of Captains, especially if it means less Captains required?
From what i was told, the answer is no. They are not LCA's and they couldn't write anything up anyway. Like I stated before, the reason given at the head shed was Captains were getting so many line checks by LCA's giving 6 month probie rides that this was a way to get the check done without a jeopardy event for the Captain. I will say that it is a pretty big departure from being a seeing eye dog, of sorts, going into very specific airports to evaluating FO's.
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I seem to recall "in the old days," there was no mid-phase "check" given on the line, it was administered in the sim. If you went to a different seat sometime in your first year (i.e., 727C--> 727 B), that training eval counted. This relatively new "mid-phase" program seems better for all involved and the use of an AQFO/LVP is better for Captains because it ensures it is a validation of the F/O and not a checkride for all.
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What do you say when the company wants to move LVPs into the role of line checks similar to what goes on in the sim...will it be another company concept change?
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True a new hire can apply for the program, but it does not mean they will get the job. There is a vetting process to choose who can be a AQFO. I would say a new hire would not make the cut.
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Depends on at what point you end the designation of "new hire" I had a guy with less than a year at the company as an AQFO on my last rotation.
The company can no longer afford all these line check airmen. Way too expensive and inefficient.
The change from check airmen captains to first officers doing new hire evaluation flights has apparently been well received.
ALPA was asked about it and responded that nobody had mentioned it on the survey so that must mean the pilots are in favor.
Now management has found another way to increase efficiency and cost effectiveness.
Have you seen Captain Dickson's latest memo?
Line checks will now be done by specially qualified flight attendants.
But not gate agents. That rumor is false.
The change from check airmen captains to first officers doing new hire evaluation flights has apparently been well received.
ALPA was asked about it and responded that nobody had mentioned it on the survey so that must mean the pilots are in favor.
Now management has found another way to increase efficiency and cost effectiveness.
Have you seen Captain Dickson's latest memo?
Line checks will now be done by specially qualified flight attendants.
But not gate agents. That rumor is false.
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