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Old 12-05-2015 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
I'll give up the LVP in exchange for no OE trip pulls in TA2.
Why would you give up a concession for a concession we voted down?
Old 12-05-2015 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DALMD88FO
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I know you know this already but there is a difference between an SLI and an AQFO or whatever they want to call them. I have never seen an AQFO have any authority to give a Captain a jeopardy event. SLI's do it all the time in the training center.
I agree, I thought he was asking if we had FO SLI's who could give a sim 'Check', because he used the word Check. Where as an AQFO is not ever giving a line check, but is just providing information on a specific route, we call them seeing eye dogs.

With this new program, what exactly is a 'validation' ride, and as mentioned above, why would we want it done by FO's instead of Captains, especially if it means less Captains required?
Old 12-06-2015 | 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by DALMD88FO
From what i was told, the answer is no. They are not LCA's and they couldn't write anything up anyway. Like I stated before, the reason given at the head shed was Captains were getting so many line checks by LCA's giving 6 month probie rides that this was a way to get the check done without a jeopardy event for the Captain. I will say that it is a pretty big departure from being a seeing eye dog, of sorts, going into very specific airports to evaluating FO's.
Why not just remove the CA from the trip and have the LCA fly with the probie?
Old 12-06-2015 | 02:29 AM
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I seem to recall "in the old days," there was no mid-phase "check" given on the line, it was administered in the sim. If you went to a different seat sometime in your first year (i.e., 727C--> 727 B), that training eval counted. This relatively new "mid-phase" program seems better for all involved and the use of an AQFO/LVP is better for Captains because it ensures it is a validation of the F/O and not a checkride for all.
Old 12-06-2015 | 05:58 AM
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What do you say when the company wants to move LVPs into the role of line checks similar to what goes on in the sim...will it be another company concept change?
Old 12-06-2015 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by iceman49
What do you say when the company wants to move LVPs into the role of line checks similar to what goes on in the sim...will it be another company concept change?
There's a valid reason LCPs are As and not Bs. Think about it.
Old 12-06-2015 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Cohiba
Remember...there are no rules with the AQFO system. A new hire could be signed up if they wanted too.
True a new hire can apply for the program, but it does not mean they will get the job. There is a vetting process to choose who can be a AQFO. I would say a new hire would not make the cut.
Old 12-06-2015 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by DARR31
True a new hire can apply for the program, but it does not mean they will get the job. There is a vetting process to choose who can be a AQFO. I would say a new hire would not make the cut.
"We didn't think they would do that."
Old 12-06-2015 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by DARR31
True a new hire can apply for the program, but it does not mean they will get the job. There is a vetting process to choose who can be a AQFO. I would say a new hire would not make the cut.
Depends on at what point you end the designation of "new hire" I had a guy with less than a year at the company as an AQFO on my last rotation.
Old 12-06-2015 | 08:23 AM
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The company can no longer afford all these line check airmen. Way too expensive and inefficient.
The change from check airmen captains to first officers doing new hire evaluation flights has apparently been well received.
ALPA was asked about it and responded that nobody had mentioned it on the survey so that must mean the pilots are in favor.
Now management has found another way to increase efficiency and cost effectiveness.

Have you seen Captain Dickson's latest memo?
Line checks will now be done by specially qualified flight attendants.
But not gate agents. That rumor is false.
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