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Old 01-29-2016, 06:51 AM
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Just saw on cnbc that the 737-max will have its first flight today.

Also saw that Boeign has delivered an average of 700+ planes I'm the last 4 years.

Who is going to fly those airplanes around the world?
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Old 01-29-2016, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by bohicagain View Post
Just saw on cnbc that the 737-max will have its first flight today.

Also saw that Boeign has delivered an average of 700+ planes I'm the last 4 years.

Who is going to fly those airplanes around the world?
Mainly Chinese.
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Old 01-29-2016, 09:14 AM
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After reading SD's email that just came out....THUMP!
That was the sound of my backpack hitting the ground.
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Old 01-29-2016, 11:34 AM
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Reposted from the TA thread:
Guys, the current management team is no better than any other dime-a-dozen airline management crooks. These guys just smile more.

This is going to be a street fight. Shore up your strike fund. Get mean. We've all been conditioned to "complete the mission" for Delta, to smile and say "goodbye," to be the grease that lubricates the operation.

But now we need to realize our real mission is taking care of our families and our futures. That's the mission we must complete. RA, SD and the executives have taken care of their families for generations.

NOW IT'S TIME TO TAKE CARE OF OURS.

I will be actively discouraging my highly-sought-after buddies from considering Delta.
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Old 01-29-2016, 11:35 AM
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Reposting from the TA thread:

Guys, the current management team is no better than any other dime-a-dozen airline management crooks. These guys just smile more.

This is going to be a street fight. Shore up your strike fund. Get mean. We've all been conditioned to "complete the mission" for Delta, to smile and say "goodbye," to be the grease that lubricates the operation.

But now we need to realize our real mission is taking care of our families and our futures. That's the mission we must complete. RA, SD and the executives have taken care of their families for generations.

NOW IT'S TIME TO TAKE CARE OF OURS.
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Old 01-29-2016, 11:48 AM
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Plus one Drank!
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Old 01-29-2016, 11:54 AM
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"We also appreciate that certain aspects of the changes we sought were of significant concern for many pilots. In particular, we know the OE provision and the medical release provisions of the sick leave changes provided a single or overriding reason for some to vote against the TA. This perspective will inform our positions in these negotiations, and we are prepared to take different approaches in those areas."

Sounds like they are trying to walk back some of the concessions?
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Old 01-29-2016, 12:08 PM
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Excerpt from SD's response to DALPA proposal:

"But we are only now beginning what appears may be a lengthy process to reach a new agreement based on our respective positions."

Not going anywhere for a while? Better grab a Snickers.
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Old 01-29-2016, 12:14 PM
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Anything less than the opener is A BIG FAT AGAINST.

SD's job is to send out letters like this. Our new Union's job is to answer back and follow a path that leads to the majorities desires. I have faith in JM. I am not going to get wound up after reading SD's letter because quite frankly I expected it and if SD does not appease his bosses, guess what?, he is going to get himself FIRED!

Ladies and Gentleman, stay the course. Give JM a chance and lets stop getting publicly emotional about this. The less emotional you are in negotiations, the more power you yield.

SD's memo, although expected, is disrespectful and deceiving. I was hoping the company would take the higher road, rather than the expected malicious road.

TEN

PS. WHy do all airlines use 85 hours for comparison? I have never and will never fly over an average of 75.. If the hours are true, we are a very productive bunch
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Old 01-29-2016, 12:40 PM
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Port of New York and New Jersey Longshoremen Stage Surprise Walkout


The Port of New York and New Jersey ground to a halt Friday after members of the International Longshoremen’s Association staged a surprise walkout.

ILA members either halted work or left the terminal facilities starting at around 10 a.m. at all six of the port’s marine terminals, effectively closing the East Coast’s busiest seaport.

The terminals import and export more containers than any U.S. port outside of Los Angeles and Long Beach, and even a brief shutdown can disrupt commerce across the region. By Friday afternoon, thousands of trucks were sitting idle at or near the terminals, according to Jeff Bader, president of the Association of Bi-State Motor Carriers, which represents port trucking companies.

“Right now the entire economy of the port is shut down,” Mr. Bader said. “We’re pulling all our trucks in and we’re heading home. We’ve missed hundreds and hundreds of exports. Containers are sitting there unmoved. You’re talking about hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars this thing has cost us.”

The work stoppage may be related to a long-running dispute between the ILA and the Waterfront Commission of New York Harbor, a bistate body that investigates corruption and hiring practices among dockworkers, according to two people familiar with the matter.

John Nardi, head of the New York Shipping Association, which represents shipping lines in their negotiations with the union, said the walkout was illegal because it violated clauses in the union’s contract with port management preventing most unplanned work stoppages. He said that NYSA had called an emergency meeting of its contract board, which includes union representatives, for Friday afternoon. However, if an agreement to resume work isn't reached at that time, the association intends to seek a federal court injunction to force the longshoremen back on the job.

“We don’t have a reason for why they’re doing this,” Mr. Nardi said.

ILA spokesman Jim McNamara said the walkout was a “unified action against the Waterfront Commission,” which longshoremen said had interfered in hiring and the union’s collective bargaining agreement with the New York Shipping Association. Mr. McNamara said the commission was “jeopardizing the future of the industry with this interference.”.

Truckers and terminal operators said the work stoppage came without warning, and they weren’t sure when operations would resume.

Mr. Bader said at least 18 drivers with his company, Golden Carriers Inc., were stranded on the piers at the port, and that ILA clerks, who coordinate the movement of cargo from ships to trucks ashore had stopped working at all terminals.

“We’re at a complete standstill here,” said Mark Ficarra, commercial-services manager for Port Newark Container Terminal LLC, one of the port’s largest terminal operators. “We didn’t get any heads up this was coming.”

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