Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
07-30-2016 | 07:20 PM
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[QUOTE=Xray678;2171055]Speaking as a guy who came from the military flying a heavy with automation very similar to the 88...........you are full of crap.
There are still airplanes in the military that don't have GPS?
There are still airplanes in the military that don't have GPS?
07-30-2016 | 07:36 PM
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All this talk about quick upgrades and safety is BS. The quick upgrade is the only benefit of getting hired now at Delta.
Delta has the least amount of wide bodies, low pay, uses far117 as its contract, almost 2 vacation days to one work day, work more or the same as a regional, 10 hour overnights, sick leave witch hunts, extension and fatigue pay issues, you have to pay for your training hotel, Training is almost all self study these days, open contract with potential for more concessions to work rules and future growth.
Delta is lucky to get the pilots they are getting looking at the pay rates and work rules of other carriers both passenger and boxes.
Delta has the least amount of wide bodies, low pay, uses far117 as its contract, almost 2 vacation days to one work day, work more or the same as a regional, 10 hour overnights, sick leave witch hunts, extension and fatigue pay issues, you have to pay for your training hotel, Training is almost all self study these days, open contract with potential for more concessions to work rules and future growth.
Delta is lucky to get the pilots they are getting looking at the pay rates and work rules of other carriers both passenger and boxes.
07-30-2016 | 08:48 PM
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don't forget the hat.....
07-30-2016 | 09:52 PM
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Anybody know how many of the AE positions are still vacant and to be filled?
And, I've got to ask the question: why are they still awarding 747 F/O positions? Look at the August reserve list on that thing compared to any narrowbody aircraft in NYC. Can we borrow some of these guys??? And that isn't a jab at 747 guys. If I could hold it, I would and gladly commute to reserve. But I don't understand the logic behind awarding that to people when they appear to have more reserves than they know what to do with, the summer months are over and the fleet is shrinking. Meanwhile...in narrowbody NYC land there isn't a single day of positive reserve coverage on the 717, M88, A320, or 757 (and just a handful on the 737 right at the minimum level). Again....not an attack on the widebody guys. I hope to be one of you someday. It just makes no sense to me why they underman NYC so much and keep adding bodies to fleets that seem to have plenty of bodies already. I'm hoping the 500 new hires coming July through October will help things out with some schedule flexibility and coverage.
And, I've got to ask the question: why are they still awarding 747 F/O positions? Look at the August reserve list on that thing compared to any narrowbody aircraft in NYC. Can we borrow some of these guys??? And that isn't a jab at 747 guys. If I could hold it, I would and gladly commute to reserve. But I don't understand the logic behind awarding that to people when they appear to have more reserves than they know what to do with, the summer months are over and the fleet is shrinking. Meanwhile...in narrowbody NYC land there isn't a single day of positive reserve coverage on the 717, M88, A320, or 757 (and just a handful on the 737 right at the minimum level). Again....not an attack on the widebody guys. I hope to be one of you someday. It just makes no sense to me why they underman NYC so much and keep adding bodies to fleets that seem to have plenty of bodies already. I'm hoping the 500 new hires coming July through October will help things out with some schedule flexibility and coverage.
07-31-2016 | 08:57 AM
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All this talk about quick upgrades and safety is BS. The quick upgrade is the only benefit of getting hired now at Delta.
Delta has the least amount of wide bodies, low pay, uses far117 as its contract, almost 2 vacation days to one work day, work more or the same as a regional, 10 hour overnights, sick leave witch hunts, extension and fatigue pay issues, you have to pay for your training hotel, Training is almost all self study these days, open contract with potential for more concessions to work rules and future growth.
Delta is lucky to get the pilots they are getting looking at the pay rates and work rules of other carriers both passenger and boxes.
Delta has the least amount of wide bodies, low pay, uses far117 as its contract, almost 2 vacation days to one work day, work more or the same as a regional, 10 hour overnights, sick leave witch hunts, extension and fatigue pay issues, you have to pay for your training hotel, Training is almost all self study these days, open contract with potential for more concessions to work rules and future growth.
Delta is lucky to get the pilots they are getting looking at the pay rates and work rules of other carriers both passenger and boxes.
07-31-2016 | 09:31 AM
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2015 Delta Hiring demographics?
Last year these 2014 new hire infographics (links below) were released on the DeltaMEC facebook page. Did they ever release any info about the 2015 hiring demographics? I can't see anything on their page and I would love to know how these numbers changed year over year.
thanks in advance!
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07-31-2016 | 10:43 AM
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Anyone ever non rev/JS with golf clubs? Do we pay an extra charge?
07-31-2016 | 01:58 PM
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Have not had the pleasure to test in the last few yrs, but I have never been charged for clubs. You do have to see the 'oversized' tsa folks before going thru security.
Although a pain. Check the full travelnet page and look at the hidden notes for nonrevs.
Although a pain. Check the full travelnet page and look at the hidden notes for nonrevs.
07-31-2016 | 03:17 PM
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The beauty is if they give you less than 10 hours of rest, they can't touch you until after your DH blocks in + at least 10 hours of rest. If you got 10 hours of rest before the DH then, they can assign flying to you. Pick your poison.
07-31-2016 | 04:06 PM
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You don't need any sleep to do a deadhead. A deadhead is a non-functioning task. You just sit there. Are you saying if you blocked into a west cost city at 10pm you would wait until the next morning to leave or hop on the midnight redeye home? Some pilots may choose the hotel while others will bail. Either way you are not a danger sitting fatigued in a passenger seat.
The beauty is if they give you less than 10 hours of rest, they can't touch you until after your DH blocks in + at least 10 hours of rest. If you got 10 hours of rest before the DH then, they can assign flying to you. Pick your poison.
The beauty is if they give you less than 10 hours of rest, they can't touch you until after your DH blocks in + at least 10 hours of rest. If you got 10 hours of rest before the DH then, they can assign flying to you. Pick your poison.
There are times I would choose the hotel and there are times I would deviate from DH as in your example. Bear in mind, there are markets where the earlier DH deviation is not an option. So now I'm stuck with another company mandated crappy rest period. I want the option to choose for myself whether I am well rested or not.
Your example of assigned flying applies primarily to IROPS, which are not the norm, and reserves which is also a small percentage. But the scheduled 9 hour layover is becoming more prevalent in bid packages. It is a way of squeezing more productivity out of us at a cost of long term health...an argument could be extended to the 10 hour layovers as well IMO.
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