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iceman49 11-29-2009 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by freightguy (Post 718415)
Training schedulers told me that I can book my own positive space travel via travelnet for training travel. Anyone knows which 'travel priority code' to use for that?

Just go under the company travel tab

johnso29 11-29-2009 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 718418)
Maybe it is the airframe, but cold soaked fuel can cause icing on the center trailing upper surface of the wing. They installed heaters for the wing surface which when inoperative require a tactile inspection to determine whether there is clear ice. That means the FO gets to run around the airport in bad weather looking for a ladder to climb up so they can run a plastic stick across painted non slip lines on the wing. It was my experience the rampers did not know what the poles where there for, so they would cut them up when they needed wands. A broomstick works well enough as a substitute.

At DAL-N it's the rampers job to do an upper wing inspection.

Bucking Bar 11-29-2009 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by 944Turbo (Post 718412)
It works a LOT better than the 73N system. I've only had to do poles and ladders once. It is only an 88 thing. 90 doesn't and the 9 can't fly that long where it is a problem.

Interesting, I happen to like the 73N's system, particularly the -700's.

Poles and Ladders are a FO problem anyway. The view from the Left Seat is probably better.

iceman49 11-29-2009 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 718341)
I sure do not see this uniform going away. Hat and all. Best to get used to it.

Agreed...no sense moving into the future:rolleyes:

johnso29 11-29-2009 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by DAL4EVER (Post 718347)
Sounds like something Lois Griffin would have made for Peter.

Some of us fly 5 legs a day. :rolleyes:

KC10 FATboy 11-29-2009 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 718424)
At DAL-N it's the rampers job to do an upper wing inspection.


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 718425)
Interesting, I happen to like the 73N's system, particularly the -700's.

Poles and Ladders are a FO problem anyway. The view from the Left Seat is probably better.

I fly the MD-88 and there were some changes to the inspection process. But admittedly with all of the changes we've had, I'm not exactly sure what they are.

The MEL says you must perform a visual and physical (hands on) inspection of the wing upper surface. The MEL was changed on 11/2007.

However, the new procedures in the Volume 1. dated 10/2009 says that the cabin windows can be used during the preflight to visually inspect the upper wing surface for frost or ice.

So which is it? Anyone have any idea?

UncleSam 11-29-2009 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by LOBO (Post 718115)
They are posted as of 1613 EST!!!

W.T.F. ???

Lobo,

Just because they are not "posted" beside each name on the reserve availability list doesn't mean that they weren't posted on the pilot's schedule. They are required to be on your schedule by 1500 the day before if you are coming off x-days. Normally, all of this happens before 1500 but some schedulers are not as good as others at getting all the info available by 1500. Just be sure to check your actual schedule after 1500 to verify that you are not on the hook. If you aren't coming off x-days they could contractually post SC on your schedule after 1500 if they still give you 12 hours notice. In that case they would normally also call you by phone. Scheduling is very good about calling you if they assign a trip, but not so good about advising you of SC. :o

Bucking Bar 11-29-2009 10:18 AM

Uncle Sam's post is right.

They can also convert you to SC with 10 hours notice.

I save my schedule every time I check it to a PDF file which I over write. In the event a "surprise" short call gets you, then you have a document to refer back to for clarification.

Originally Posted by UncleSam (Post 718437)
Scheduling is very good about calling you if they assign a trip, but not so good about advising you of SC.

Do you think this is ever intentional?

I'm not calling "shenanigans" but it does sometimes appear they manipulate the system with these surpise short calls to avoid proffers, premium pay and white slips for the line holders.

sevenfiveseven 11-29-2009 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 718408)
No short bus for me. DC9 all the way. Go ugly early seems to be a winning strategy.

Try to get a schedule other pilots might like and put the whole thing into the swap board and open time. I'm trying to find senior Captains to learn strategies for OTJR status. I want to be as close to "quit" as possible without actually quitting - for a job I never applied for in the first place.

Does the DC9 have "poles and ladders" to compensate for a lousy fuel system design, or is that just an MD88 thing?

Yes - BUT you ask the "iceman" to do a wing tactile check! :D

sevenfiveseven 11-29-2009 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by freightguy (Post 718415)
Training schedulers told me that I can book my own positive space travel via travelnet for training travel. Anyone knows which 'travel priority code' to use for that?

Book under company travel - not a travel code.


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