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01-18-2017, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Falcon20
So can you deduct cash "charitable" contributions that were given on a layover to a young lady to help her get through college and replace her missing top?
I figure it has to be allowed under education, job expenses or charity.
I figure it has to be allowed under education, job expenses or charity.
Sounds like a van driver tip to me....
01-18-2017, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Klondike Bear
I called out fatigued before a trip started while on reserve. They pulled the trip off my line and put me back on reserve. Is that the way it's supposed to work, or am I supposed to get some sort of trip guarantee for that rotation? I would think at least 5:15 for the first day. Thanks in advance!
I recommend reading the contract.
I'm also curious about the circumstances that would lead to a reserve calling in fatigued for a trip assignment prior to the trip even beginning...
01-18-2017, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
You already get the reserve guarantee. Do you really think that a reserve should get a full day's worth of a trip applied against the reserve guarantee, when you didn't even show up for the trip? Heck, even if you are called out for a trip, then report and the trip cancels, you only get "suit up pay" of two hours applied against the reserve guarantee. You want 5.15 when you never left your house...due to your own fatigue call?
I recommend reading the contract.
I'm also curious about the circumstances that would lead to a reserve calling in fatigued for a trip assignment prior to the trip even beginning...
I recommend reading the contract.
I'm also curious about the circumstances that would lead to a reserve calling in fatigued for a trip assignment prior to the trip even beginning...
01-18-2017, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
You already get the reserve guarantee. Do you really think that a reserve should get a full day's worth of a trip applied against the reserve guarantee, when you didn't even show up for the trip? Heck, even if you are called out for a trip, then report and the trip cancels, you only get "suit up pay" of two hours applied against the reserve guarantee. You want 5.15 when you never left your house...due to your own fatigue call?
I recommend reading the contract.
I'm also curious about the circumstances that would lead to a reserve calling in fatigued for a trip assignment prior to the trip even beginning...
I recommend reading the contract.
I'm also curious about the circumstances that would lead to a reserve calling in fatigued for a trip assignment prior to the trip even beginning...
01-18-2017, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
There can be both personal reasons and operational reasons for a reserve to call in fatigued. I have done it after arriving from a all nighter and called to go back out that evening with no notice. Home issues can also occur. Expecting to get paid however is not realistic.
01-18-2017, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by duece12345
How is it not realistic? If a line holder fatigues out of the first day of a trip they get 5:15 for that day....per the FRB. What the difference if a RES is assigned a trip and fatigues out?
01-18-2017, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
There can be both personal reasons and operational reasons for a reserve to call in fatigued. I have done it after arriving from a all nighter and called to go back out that evening with no notice. Home issues can also occur. Expecting to get paid however is not realistic.
01-18-2017, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Klondike Bear
I called out fatigued before a trip started while on reserve. They pulled the trip off my line and put me back on reserve. Is that the way it's supposed to work, or am I supposed to get some sort of trip guarantee for that rotation? I would think at least 5:15 for the first day. Thanks in advance!
Klondike,
I can think of plenty of reasons to call in fatigued - I think most reasonable Pilots will agree with you here.
The issue is that as a Reserve you get the guarantee. You called in fatigued and will still get the guarantee - no financial harm was done.
The only thing that I am curious about is them putting you right back on reserve? Seems like they should have removed you from the availability list since you were fatigued.
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01-18-2017, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
Klondike,
I can think of plenty of reasons to call in fatigued - I think most reasonable Pilots will agree with you here.
The issue is that as a Reserve you get the guarantee. You called in fatigued and will still get the guarantee - no financial harm was done.
The only thing that I am curious about is them putting you right back on reserve? Seems like they should have removed you from the availability list since you were fatigued.
Scoop
I can think of plenty of reasons to call in fatigued - I think most reasonable Pilots will agree with you here.
The issue is that as a Reserve you get the guarantee. You called in fatigued and will still get the guarantee - no financial harm was done.
The only thing that I am curious about is them putting you right back on reserve? Seems like they should have removed you from the availability list since you were fatigued.
Scoop
And I agree with the guarantee on reserve. I only asked the question because we got new rules and as a line holder you would get the trip pay. Thank you for not being a dick about it.
Last edited by Klondike Bear; 01-18-2017 at 06:46 PM.
01-19-2017, 04:24 AM
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Where can I find the total number of vacation days I have for 17-18? I have searched icrew and only found this year. I lost some days for mil leave but I thought I remembered I had 8 remaining. I was awarded one week in pvac and I was just given a supp day on the end. (I assume that is my sick leave supp day, ATL 717). I am wondering if that one remaining day will be added to my pvac later or if it is bid during svac? Also I have one PB day remaining, will that be added automatically to my vacation or do I have to call sched? Thanks in advance for the help.
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