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hockeypilot44 06-14-2017 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by Phuz (Post 2379641)
International pay question:

The $6.50 / $4.50 override for international does not apply to M88 drivers going to Cancun? I've been a few times I don't see on my PAS where they are applying that credit.

It should apply unless something changed with our newest contract.

MongoC5 06-14-2017 10:29 PM

Does not apply to 48 US states Canada or Mexico

Mongo

Phuz 06-15-2017 03:25 AM


Originally Posted by MongoC5 (Post 2379744)
Does not apply to 48 US states Canada or Mexico

Mongo

I figured as much. Not saying you are wrong, as I believe that is probably an accepted practice - but the contract makes no mention of that. It simply defines it as: “International pay” means an hourly pay premium paid to a pilot for flight time flown in an international operation

Suppose I'll just write the rep and see what he says. It's not a lot of money but it covers the first round and the van tip.

FL370esq 06-15-2017 04:44 AM


Originally Posted by Phuz (Post 2379769)
I figured as much. Not saying you are wrong, as I believe that is probably an accepted practice - but the contract makes no mention of that. It simply defines it as: “International pay” means an hourly pay premium paid to a pilot for flight time flown in an international operation

Suppose I'll just write the rep and see what he says. It's not a lot of money but it covers the first round and the van tip.

C'mon Phuz...you were so close but you just need to read the contract more fully/carefully. You are exactly right that 2.A.145 defines "International pay” means an hourly pay premium paid to a pilot for flight time flown in an international operation.

However, you have to go to 2.A.143 which defines “International operation” as "a flight segment to or from an airport, or between airports, located outside the contiguous 48 states of the United States. Exception: A flight segment between an airport located in the mainland United States and either Canada or Alaska will not be considered an international operation."

Therefore, a flight to/from CUN is an international operation entitling you to international override and international per diem.

WhiskeyDelta 06-15-2017 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by MongoC5 (Post 2379744)
Does not apply to 48 US states Canada or Mexico

Mongo

Great example of not knowing thy contract. FL370esq's answer is absolutely the correct one.

Phuz 06-15-2017 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by FL370esq (Post 2379796)
C'mon Phuz...you were so close but you just need to read the contract more fully/carefully. You are exactly right that 2.A.145 defines "International pay” means an hourly pay premium paid to a pilot for flight time flown in an international operation.

However, you have to go to 2.A.143 which defines “International operation” as "a flight segment to or from an airport, or between airports, located outside the contiguous 48 states of the United States. Exception: A flight segment between an airport located in the mainland United States and either Canada or Alaska will not be considered an international operation."

Therefore, a flight to/from CUN is an international operation entitling you to international override and international per diem.

Thank you.

Falcon20 06-15-2017 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by FL370esq (Post 2379796)
C'mon Phuz...you were so close but you just need to read the contract more fully/carefully. You are exactly right that 2.A.145 defines "International pay” means an hourly pay premium paid to a pilot for flight time flown in an international operation.

However, you have to go to 2.A.143 which defines “International operation” as "a flight segment to or from an airport, or between airports, located outside the contiguous 48 states of the United States. Exception: A flight segment between an airport located in the mainland United States and either Canada or Alaska will not be considered an international operation."

Therefore, a flight to/from CUN is an international operation entitling you to international override and international per diem.

So if you are a reserve pilot that does an international trip but does not exceed reserve guarantee do you get paid the override above guarantee? Or does it only get applied if you exceed the guarantee?

iaflyer 06-15-2017 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by Falcon20 (Post 2379879)
So if you are a reserve pilot that does an international trip but does not exceed reserve guarantee do you get paid the override above guarantee? Or does it only get applied if you exceed the guarantee?

From looking at my PAS, I get the international pay for the hours I fly on reserve, even if I end up below guarantee.

GogglesPisano 06-15-2017 07:53 AM

Does anyone have the link to adjust the black-out times for ALPA's texts? Twice this week I've gotten texts at 2236 East Coast time telling me that the bids were out. Delta's CNO system has "Do Not Disturb" times.

Sputnik 06-15-2017 07:57 AM

So, two questions for the PWA gurus out there.

1. Short call pilot gets called out for a one day trip. Signs in, spend several hours, then flight cancels. What does it pay? I spent way too long staring in PWA and not finding it.

2. This one is really driving me nuts, where are payback days and partial pb days discussed? I've read it before but for the life of me can't find it now.

Thanks


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