The company wouldn't come to the table by honoring RCC inputs and staffing for the additional X day. DALPA took the proper action and shot the hostage. It stinks we lost a negotiated benefit in our contract, but it was Delta's decision that killed it not DALPA.

I agree DALPA took the appropriate action under the circumstances but RCC “inputs” have always been nothing more than suggestions.

Scoop

07-27-2018 | 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

Basically none of it. We dropped I think GDL from ATL and added LAX to Mexico City. I think GDL was seasonal. Contractually our Mexico flying can’t be reduced. With the current company/MEC relationship I doubt you will see any increase. I suspect 100% of new flying will go to AeroMexico.

None of it?
Ok, thanks, SF!
She is a speaker and can't fly home any longer, but next time I see her I will tell her that she is wrong! Because some guy on a forum with 10K posts said so!

07-27-2018 | 06:32 AM

#195674

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

I supported the decision based on the company not talking to us per the contract. It however never should have come to that. We no longer have any meanful conversation with the company which is the bigger issue. Nothing is getting done. You have a paralyzed MEC that speaks loudly but carries a very tiny stick.
Some of our reps also need some basic lessons in decorum when meeting with management.

Agreed. This is all very instructional, indicative maybe, what’s the right word?, as to how the next Section 6 will go. I know, SAD!

07-27-2018 | 06:37 AM

#195675

Hawaii50

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Originally Posted by IPAs

As a reserve pilot it works out very well if we're over manned.

Which is important because pilots who may have been able to hold a line if Sils had been awarded, are on reserve.

07-27-2018 | 07:50 AM

#195676

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Originally Posted by Hawaii50

Which is important because pilots who may have been able to hold a line if Sils had been awarded, are on reserve.

You don't know that. Maybe the pilot who would've been paid 40 hours for a SIL will now bid RES in an effort to get 72-80 hours for minimal effort.

07-27-2018 | 08:12 AM

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Which is important because pilots who may have been able to hold a line if Sils had been awarded, are on reserve.

As a line holder in a SIL category, I would have bid for a 40 hr SIL in September. Someone junior to me will be on reserve instead of holding a line.

07-27-2018 | 08:14 AM

#195678

sailingfun

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Originally Posted by Lifeisgood

None of it?
Ok, thanks, SF!
She is a speaker and can't fly home any longer, but next time I see her I will tell her that she is wrong! Because some guy on a forum with 10K posts said so!

You don’t have to believe me. You can look at the union scope reports and or read our contract. The flying to Mexico has not decreased. I guess however you will take the word of a flight attendant over your union.

07-27-2018 | 08:51 AM

#195679

Hawaii50

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From: 3fidy

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Originally Posted by Gunfighter

As a line holder in a SIL category, I would have bid for a 40 hr SIL in September. Someone junior to me will be on reserve instead of holding a line.

Huh? Someone is going to hold that line you didn't get when you took the month off.

07-27-2018 | 09:06 AM

#195680

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I think voluntary SILs are a net benefit to the Pilot group as a whole but if the company blows off our PWA then DALPA is correct in pulling them down.

As I said RCC inputs have always basically been requests, not really inputs, but if they have sufficient manning to honor them but still don’t, then by all means shut them down.

Scoop