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Old 07-27-2018, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter View Post
No, they would have held a line instead of reserve IF we still had SILs.

We pulled them down (for good reason), so I will be flying a line in September. Someone junior to me could have had a line instead of reserve if I was at home on a SIL instead of flying 75 hours in Sept. The point is that SILs aren't automatically bad for pilots on reserve. Some of them would be lineholders instead of reserve, because pilots senior to them are out on a SIL.
Something you are neglecting is when there is higher reserve staffing there are many pilots who can hold a line who bid reserve with the idea of getting full pay for not working. Since there were SILs in your category there are likely pilots like that in your category who wouldn't do it if SILs were awarded since reserves would fly more. In fact, lines may very well go more junior without SILs present. The numbers point to SILs being bad for reserves overall, especially since they reduce the number of days off for all the reserves (eliminating the extra X day).
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Old 07-27-2018, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Baradium View Post
Something you are neglecting is when there is higher reserve staffing there are many pilots who can hold a line who bid reserve with the idea of getting full pay for not working. Since there were SILs in your category there are likely pilots like that in your category who wouldn't do it if SILs were awarded since reserves would fly more. In fact, lines may very well go more junior without SILs present. The numbers point to SILs being bad for reserves overall, especially since they reduce the number of days off for all the reserves (eliminating the extra X day).
I thought the same also, but in a sample size of 1 category, that was not the case. Six "senior" pilots bid reserve in June when there were no SILs offered. 13 bid reserve in July with 25hr SILs offered and 14 bid reserve in August when 40hr SILs were offered. *This was not an exhaustive analysis, just a quick driveby of the data in one category.

I think the company's admission of being overstaffed, by offering SILs, drew attention to the fact the reserves weren't being utilized and it went senior to where it had before. What used to be a secret known only to those on reserve was publicized for all to read about.
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Old 07-27-2018, 01:39 PM
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They can have GDL....just sayin.
Gdl can be a great overnight in the right areas. But with that mentality, the only places we will fly in Mexico is mex sjd cun and pvr
If there was a press release that said Aeromexico is now doing all cun and sjd flights to the states and delta will now be doing Leon, Monterey and ciudad Juarez
I bet people would pay more attention.

The next thing that is going to happen is westjet is going to start flying into our hubs and parking right next to us from mid sized Canadian cities. Both Aeromexico and westjet have 20 Dreamliners on order.
The reason these are more dangerous than our other jv is that they surround our borders. Passengers can now go to Toronto or Mexico City instead of dtw msp or atl
Vancouver instead of Seattle
List goes on
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Old 07-28-2018, 07:16 AM
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Some of our reps also need some basic lessons in decorum when meeting with management.

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Not enough vaseline !
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Old 07-28-2018, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
Some of our reps also need some basic lessons in decorum when meeting with management.
Please tell us what you are basing this statement on.
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Old 07-28-2018, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Delta2heavy View Post
Gdl can be a great overnight in the right areas. But with that mentality, the only places we will fly in Mexico is mex sjd cun and pvr
If there was a press release that said Aeromexico is now doing all cun and sjd flights to the states and delta will now be doing Leon, Monterey and ciudad Juarez
I bet people would pay more attention.

The next thing that is going to happen is westjet is going to start flying into our hubs and parking right next to us from mid sized Canadian cities. Both Aeromexico and westjet have 20 Dreamliners on order.
The reason these are more dangerous than our other jv is that they surround our borders. Passengers can now go to Toronto or Mexico City instead of dtw msp or atl
Vancouver instead of Seattle
List goes on
Really Dick Tracy? I hadn't thought about that. Do you understand what means at the end of a post? It was a joke already.
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Old 07-28-2018, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by contrails View Post
Please tell us what you are basing this statement on.
Conduct

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Old 07-28-2018, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
Conduct

Filler
Writing the word "conduct" is not an answer.

You are accusing one or more reps of misconduct.

So be SPECIFIC.

What is the misconduct?
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Old 07-28-2018, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by contrails View Post
Writing the word "conduct" is not an answer.

You are accusing one or more reps of misconduct.

So be SPECIFIC.

What is the misconduct?
I am not going to post here. We will leave it at they were less then courteous to company leadership without any reason. You can contact your reps if you want more info. I am told that the issue has been addressed with the reps involved. I have no knowledge of what the union leadership has done to address it.
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Old 07-28-2018, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
I am not going to post here. We will leave it at they were less then courteous to company leadership without any reason. You can contact your reps if you want more info. I am told that the issue has been addressed with the reps involved. I have no knowledge of what the union leadership has done to address it.
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