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Old 08-27-2018 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Just curious. The rollout of the 717 was predicated on remapping our regional airlines. That required Delta to renegotiate numerous long term contracts. Do you think the regionals would have agreed to simply slash their fleets absent a agreement to allow them to bring on bigger equipment?
This statement is pretty ignorant, you won't get any support from former or current regional guys with that line. Delta has been reducing all kinds of regional feed without giving said regionals bigger equipment. It's not like the larger aircraft were going to the regionals planes were going away from reliably. While they did use larger aircraft for some companies as a carrot, they also took a lot away without doing so. ExpressJet got to be on both sides of that.

Delta wanted to remove 50 seat a/c anyway. That contract was a scope give, plane and simple. In exchange for reducing the number of planes which they already wanted gone, they got to add more of the planes they wanted.
Old 08-27-2018 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Der Meister
Whispers say another WB announcement in the next 2 month. Personally I'm hoping for some 350-10000
How about the 5 ex Ethiad B777LRs?
Old 08-27-2018 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
We don't buy and sell airplanes, management does.
Yet we base our pay on the size speed capacity of those that management does buy. LOL
Old 08-27-2018 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
That's exactly the kind of rumor I expect to hear going into negotiations. We don't buy and sell airplanes, management does. The fleet plans are what they are, and will be what they will be. I seem to remeber a fleet of 717s, E190s, and 737s contigent upon PWA signing. NOT.



Exactly. This is a non-issue, why are you even bringing it up? We have seen the folly of taking aircraft orders into account when voting on a contract



Management will buy whatever fleets they deem most beneficial to DAL when and where they want - we have zero influence, and now hopefully even the "appearance" of the Pilot group having influence is a thing of the past.


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Old 08-27-2018 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by firstmob
How about the 5 ex Ethiad B777LRs?
Richard says they don't make money (from Amtrak)...
Old 08-27-2018 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
That's exactly the kind of rumor I expect to hear going into negotiations. We don't buy and sell airplanes, management does. The fleet plans are what they are, and will be what they will be. I seem to remeber a fleet of 717s, E190s, and 737s contigent upon PWA signing. NOT.



No kidding. I remember a negotiating committee member responding to my comment at the DTW TA2012 roadshow that management wants the 717 regardless if the TA passed. His response, "If we vote down the TA, management will heavy check the CRJ200's, retrofit new interiors, and fly them past 2025." Yes, that was his actual response. I couldn't believe his answer; I felt as if I were talking to someone from Mars.
Old 08-27-2018 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by n9810f
Richard says they don't make money (from Amtrak)...
Just a guess but I'll bet he wishes he had never met those gnarly old rail people with their stonewall unions.
Old 08-27-2018 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by badflaps
Just a guess but I'll bet he wishes he had never met those gnarly old rail people with their stonewall unions.
He's just getting another feather for his cap, witch will make him look great when he's tapped for Secretary of Transportation.
Old 08-27-2018 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SideSticker
He's just getting another feather for his cap, witch will make him look great when he's tapped for Secretary of Transportation.
I don’t think he deserves such a severe punishment.
Old 08-27-2018 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by House of Usher
No kidding. I remember a negotiating committee member responding to my comment at the DTW TA2012 roadshow that management wants the 717 regardless if the TA passed. His response, "If we vote down the TA, management will heavy check the CRJ200's, retrofit new interiors, and fly them past 2025." Yes, that was his actual response. I couldn't believe his answer; I felt as if I were talking to someone from Mars.
I remember that threat. I think Sailingfun might have been parroting that plan on these boards back then too.
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