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Originally Posted by notEnuf
(Post 2745151)
Exactly my point they are looking at a volume number to get a representative sample not a cross section. If you don't answer do they call someone else of the same age, base, seat and commute status? The answer is no, they move on to the next randomly generated phone number with the assumption the database they are provided is equally valid for all individuals. There is no time of day adjustment for those on international layovers or even those on the west coast. Sampling hours, availability of the subject, accurate phone numbers and other factors all add error to the sample.
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
(Post 2744077)
Still doesn’t help when I can’t answer. Unlike some, I intentionally leave the house without my phone when I’m on my time. Per Delta, I can’t answer it on their time. Opinion only but I think the phone surveys are far from statistically representative. No holiday inn last night but my significant other was a marketing reasearch analyst and says they are bogus FWIW. If the word is out that this is retirement focused, who do you think picks up the phone or ensures the number is not missed?
That said, there’s no perfect solution but thoughtful contemplation from those who care to participate is better IMHO. The problem with surveys (assuming low turnout) is that they are not much different than a FOX/MSNBC “go online to vote” survey. A huge self selection bias that will attract the most vocal which does not represent a actual crosssection of the population (pilot group in this case). As an example, one need to look at just about any social media site including this one when there is a “poll” taken on a TA. The results are never anywhere close to the ultimate poll which is the vote itself. I know there will be an argument that anyone who doesn’t complete the survey shouldn’t matter, but that is not fairly representing all pilots and the survey is also subject to more gamesmanship than polling. As an example “I want a 100 percent raise!” in an attempt to drive the percentage ask up, but that is not their real ask. The survey this time was also awful IMO. Trying to assign percentage wants on 10 issues at a time etc had a lot of my peers leaving it unfinished. I also think the way it was worded is going to leave the NC in a bind at some point when there are 132 items that are “must haves” instead of accurately defining the level of importance. |
Originally Posted by ChecklistMonkey
(Post 2745333)
I received a missed call from the same number twice. On the 3rd day I answered and it was the survey people. Unfortunately, I was on the way to the airport and couldn't talk so they scheduled a callback at my convenience.
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DALPA sent out the number; last time it was 603-397-0635. I added that as a contact in my phone, called Delta Polling. It ain't hard - I answer and give my thoughts. I keep notes on my phone with the Keep app, so I have them handy any time and don't forget to mention contract issues I'm happy or displeased with.
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Originally Posted by TED74
(Post 2745350)
DALPA sent out the number; last time it was 603-397-0635. I added that as a contact in my phone, called Delta Polling. It ain't hard - I answer and give my thoughts. I keep notes on my phone with the Keep app, so I have them handy any time and don't forget to mention contract issues I'm happy or displeased with.
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Originally Posted by TED74
(Post 2745350)
DALPA sent out the number; last time it was 603-397-0635. I added that as a contact in my phone, called Delta Polling. It ain't hard - I answer and give my thoughts. I keep notes on my phone with the Keep app, so I have them handy any time and don't forget to mention contract issues I'm happy or displeased with.
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
(Post 2744981)
So apparently the monthly update is down to just 2 items. Base newsletters are no longer emailed to us -- they're on Skyhub.
Can't find them on Skyhub.:confused: Anyone? |
Originally Posted by ExAF
(Post 2745376)
According to the Flight Operations Weekly Update: January 16, 2019, Base newsletters will only be available on Skyhub.:rolleyes: I'm gonna miss reading those. I'm certainly not going to be forced to start using Skyhub in order to read them.:mad:
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Any other polling #s? I do have the one above in my phone. I must have put it in during the last round of calls.
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Originally Posted by ExAF
(Post 2745376)
According to the Flight Operations Weekly Update: January 16, 2019, Base newsletters will only be available on Skyhub.:rolleyes: I'm gonna miss reading those. I'm certainly not going to be forced to start using Skyhub in order to read them.:mad:
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