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Old 05-28-2019, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluto View Post
According to the mask manufacturer's lawyer? Yeah, you're right. According to real life?... I volunteer as tribute to test it in a high altitude sim.

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Until last year, Air Canada and several other airlines required pilots to have a clean-shaven face. Air Canada reasoned that in the case of in-flight emergency, a clean-shaven face was necessary to ensure a proper seal on an oral-nasal face mask.

In fall 2016, however, the airline retained Sherri Ferguson, director of SFU's Environmental Medicine and Physiology Unit, and her team to research the efficacy of face masks on different beard lengths.

"We had two objectives," says Ferguson. "First, we had to determine if present-day equipment used in the Canadian commercial airline industry delivers sufficient oxygen to protect a bearded pilot from hypoxia during an emergency cabin depressurization scenario."

Hypoxia occurs when the body does not receive enough oxygen and can cause damage to the brain and other organs minutes after symptoms appear and render a pilot incapacitated or unconscious.

"Secondly, we had to find out whether the mask provides sufficient protection against carbon monoxide and toxic fumes should the cabin become smoke-filled from fire."

The researchers divided research participants into three groups: those with a small amount of facial hair such as stubble (less than 0.5 cm in length), those with medium sized-beards and those with long beards (up to 40 cm).

Wearing masks supplied by Air Canada, the participants were put into a hypobaric chamber, which simulated altitudes from 10,000 to 25,000 ft above sea level. The researchers measured the participants' oxygen saturation levels at every altitude change, because a drop in the oxygen saturation levels would indicate the masks are leaky and unable to maintain a proper seal.

For the second test, the researchers used stannic chloride, which causes watery eyes as well as a burning sensation in the lungs, in order to create conditions similar to fire smoke.

The researchers found no adverse effects on bearded subjects within the two parameters of the study, and that the masks maintained protection, irrespective of varying amounts of facial hair.

The study provided the basis for Air Canada to change its facial hair policy for aircrew and now permits a maximum length of 1.25 cm and neatly trimmed
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Old 05-28-2019, 01:15 PM
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Re: beards, stolen from an identical discussion on the AA forum -

Originally Posted by Hank Burley View Post
They are allowed but only if accompanied by a man bun. AA doesn’t allow half ass hipsters.
Pretty much sums it up for me.
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Old 05-28-2019, 01:34 PM
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I oppose them because then #reservebeard would lose its luster.
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Old 05-29-2019, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Gspeed View Post
I oppose them because then #reservebeard would lose its luster.
Agreed. Allowing beards devalues the relative QOL for WB reserve. It may also discourage senior pilots from bidding reserve, because they could now fly with a beard. As previously mentioned this opens the door to manbun. Protect the #reservebeard

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Old 06-03-2019, 08:15 AM
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It Was The Third of June Another Sleepy Dusty Delta Day......
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Old 06-03-2019, 09:15 AM
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It was the third of June,
On that summer's day
When I became a man
At the hands of a girl almost twice my age

And she came to me
Just like a morning sun
And it wasn't so much her words as such
As the way they were sung
It was the way they were sung
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Old 06-04-2019, 06:42 PM
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Default It’s official. Boston is now a hub.

https://thepointsguy.com/news/delta-...ts-hub-cities/
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Old 06-04-2019, 07:27 PM
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But still not a pilot base.
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Old 06-04-2019, 08:01 PM
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pwa 1.b.23
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Old 06-05-2019, 04:51 AM
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I'm lost. Other than locals wanting to drive to work, what significance does being a "hub" or "domicile" have? Isn't Seattle (or at least wasn't) still not a "hub"? How does this impact our PWA?
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